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    Fresh Fill

    I'm going to be filling my pool for the first time this weekend. I've read though everything but I just have a few questions.
    Also can you make sure my steps are right:
    Once Filled I will test the PH and make sure thats good to go (I tested the tap and its 7.5)
    Put CYA (according to Pool Calc) in a sock in front of the return untill desolved and test after a week.

    Now how much bleach to I put in off the getgo?
    Also I will be gone for 3 days coming up, What do I do in that time frame away from the pool.

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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Add about 2ppm of FC right off the bat.
    Once the CYA is starting to dissolve, then maintain the FC based on your target CYA level.

    If you have a floater with some tablets, a 3 day hiatus would be a good time to float them to add CYA and FC.
    Otherwise, raise the FC to shock level and cover the pool.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    I dont have a floater but might get one. Otherwise it sounds like 1 bottle of bleach will get me darn close at CYA 30
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    IF you do not have tablets and a floater, then I would not buy them.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Sounds good! Does the rest of my beginning process seem right?
    Do I run the pump 24/7 till the CYA is dissolved then start out at 4hr a day?
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    That sounds like a plan. Squeeze the sock to help the CYA dissolve.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Getting Closer, got the pump plumbed to the filter. Liner going in tomorrow.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Pulled old liner out and this was under it. Not too bad but I'm going to lay down a new layer of sand.



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    Re: Fresh Fill

    First readings in.
    5/9/15
    TC 0
    Ph 7.5
    Ch 75
    Ta 40?


    So I'm assuming once it's full and pump is going I can go right to cya and 2ppm of bleach?

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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Bump.

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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Congrats on the new pool! Should be a great summer!

    Chlorine should never be allowed to drop below the minimum FC level for your CYA level or algae will start to grow. Even on day 1. As Jason said above add 2ppm FC right off the bat. Did you add the 30 ppm CYA yet? The Chlorine CYA Chart shows that the minimum FC level for 30ppm CYA is 2ppm and the target is 4. So, add enough FC daily to bring FC to 4ppm. If you are unable to test or add for a few days then you can target 10-12ppm to hold you over a few days. Keep your FC above 2 and you will never have to worry about SLAMing your pool.

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    And use PoolMath to determine how much to add.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Thanks fo the reply. I understand most of everything just wasn't sure on what to do with the fresh fill. I will be adding the cya tomorrow once it's full enough to run the pump. I added just over 2 cups of bleach and will add more tomorrow to get it to 4.

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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Liner installed! CYA is all dissolved and bleach is being added each day. I'm going to test everything again today but I think my PH and TA are low but I will ask for help once I test again. Last time I tested it was still filling.

    Here are some photos of the install and fill







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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Alright! Looking good. Ready for summer now!
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Thanks pooldv!
    I'm very excited, my wife is so over me talking about it 24/7 haha
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    You know, I was about to crack the joke about you need to put some water in there when I realized there was only a little water in there.

    Stick with our methods and you'll understand. Your pool water can be so clear that when the pump is off and the surface is calm, you'll do a doubletake some day thinking all the water leaked out.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    Thanks Richard, I had my wife get me a box of borax today. I'm gonna tests again when I get home but I think my ph and ta is low.

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    Re: Fresh Fill

    First filled test results

    TC 1
    PH 6.8
    FC 2
    CC .5
    CH 50
    TA 50
    CYA 50?

    I added the cya yesterday, would I see that much already?
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    How much CYA did you add?

    Bump that pH up some, the TA could go up to around 20ppm too.
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    Re: Fresh Fill

    I added according to pool math. I think the gallons might of been a bit too much.
    I added 37 oz on HTH stabilizer and conditioner.

    Adding Borax now according to pool math to raise PH
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