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    Testing fc with tf-100

    Ok I got the tf100 kit and also the stirrer. When I do the fc test I have used the stirrer and without. My question is if I use the electric stirrer the water will go clear around 6-8 drops.( I am trying to slam the pool at the moment.) But then I turn it off and the test goes back to pink. Now if I mix it by swirling manually I can get more drops before it goes clear. So which way is the correct way? Once it goes clear that's the count or when it sits for a few seconds keeping adding?? Very confused. On the ph and Ch tester I get a dark yellow as it would appear to be more then the 4 fc as tested with the electric stirrer.


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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Once it goes clear, you are done. Do the CC portion the same way and then ignore the fact it will turn pink again.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    As soon as the sample turns clear that's your end point. The sample will turn back to pink if it sits for a bit. Don't add anymore drops at that point. The first time it turns clear that's your FC level.
    If it takes 6-8 drops for the sample to turn clear your not at SLAM level FC. What's your CYA level ?
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Many people new to the drops based test get some variance,

    You simply continue to add drops until the last drop you add makes NO FURTHER change........then subtract that last drop from your total.

    So regardless whether you use the speedstir, the mixture should turn clear.....not just your idea of clear but add another drop to make sure there is no further change......make sense?
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh View Post
    Many people new to the drops based test get some variance,

    You simply continue to add drops until the last drop you add makes NO FURTHER change........then subtract that last drop from your total.

    So regardless whether you use the speedstir, the mixture should turn clear.....not just your idea of clear but add another drop to make sure there is no further change......make sense?


    yes makes perfect sense, I was just not sure weither it was suppose to be over and done once the clear hit or to let it sit for a few before adding next drop, so I will go back to the speedstir with the test

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwrstrk View Post
    As soon as the sample turns clear that's your end point. The sample will turn back to pink if it sits for a bit. Don't add anymore drops at that point. The first time it turns clear that's your FC level.
    If it takes 6-8 drops for the sample to turn clear your not at SLAM level FC. What's your CYA level ?
    current cya level is low, may even be zero, once it gets to the 20 mark on the tube I can barely see the black dot
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    what is the reason behind not running the swg unit when in demand of high levels of fc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy688 View Post
    what is the reason behind not running the swg unit when in demand of high levels of fc?
    The SWCG cell has a finite life span. Running it at 100% to help when you are adding liquid anyway is just shortening it's life for no reason. Stick with the liquid.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Ok please help I don't understand. I have been staying on the thing as best I can for the past three days now with no luck. Started with 8.25 bleach and then went to dollar tree for cheap stuff and today went and found some 12.5%. I have been using the pool math and adding it as my fc test hasn't been over 1 or 2 for the past three days. I have dumped 4 gallons of 12.5 % in tonight from 6pm till 9pm and just tested for fc and got 1 with a high reading of cc. I am about to pull my hair out of here. I have spent close to $75 in just bleach and feel I have got no where!!! What am I doing wrong? Tonight I got home tested water at 6pm and got a reading of 2 fc so went to pool math with a cya of 30 and it targeted 10-12 and requested 1.5 gallon of 12.5. So I pour in 1.5 gallon and check a hour later to get a reding of 1. So i added another dose of 1.5 gallons for a total of 3. Tested at 9 got a reading of 1 maybe 2 fc so I added another gallon for a total of 4 between 6pm and 9pm. Just went out and checked at 10pm and got a reading of 1fc with like a 10cc reading. Please help me!


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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    You are the 3rd current thread that seems to have the same problem. Low FC and high CC, likely ammonia in the water.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    I am thinking you may have ammonia. I am sure someone else will chime in soon. This is not a overnight process. Be sure to check that the dates on your bleach or liquid chlorine are from 2015. I used some from 2014 and it had lost half of its strength. That slowed me for a few days.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Is there another option to get the fc to raise? Was really wanting to take a trip to the beach this weekend but told family I couldn't if the pool wasn't online in time. Is there a different process with ammonia in the water?


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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Nope, you have to consume it with chlorine. Keep going until the FC holds and the CC drops.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Sorry to say , no. Ammonia can take lots of chlorine to oxidize and go away. Keep testing and adding chlorine as often as possible.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    Can I add a lot more at one time or still just use what the pool math tells me? Like currently it tells me 1 fc with a target of 12fc I need to add basically 1.9 gallons. Can I double that amount or is that asking for trouble? I don't want to waste the money and time already spent.


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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    You can add a little more. If it says close to two gallons round up and make it easy, but don't double it.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    It is not recommended to go to far above the shock FC level. I will let someone else chime in on that
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    But, you can test and add every hour or two to speed along the process.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    I have some cal-hypo 73% left over from the owners before, I can use this with the pool math to help speed up and lessen the cost? or just stick with buying stock in bleach lol
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    I would stick with the bleach. You have to be patient. It will happen, but it takes time.
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    Re: Testing fc with tf-100

    AZgirl is right. We can't suggest using the cal hypo without more data. Which would be your pool and makeup water CH level. Green pools take time to get green, and time to clear if you do it right. It won't happen overnight.
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