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    Concrete counter

    Hoping to pour in place my outdoor concrete counter on Saturday. Would love any advice or last min suggestions. Will be 1.5 inches and using remedy from HD. I have mesh setting on two screws crisscrossed in many locations to keep it around 1/2 inch - 3/4 inch off my base does this sound appropriate? I also secured it to the many screws with wire. Now I'm worried that it should just be sitting on the screws so it will have movement as the concrete cures? Does it matter if it's secured or loose? Your thoughts please having last min jitters!!!!
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    Re: Concrete counter

    Here r some pix


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    Re: Concrete counter

    I can't tell you location so don't know if you get lots of freezes. I don't in Texas so I wasn't too worried about it. I don't know if the mesh you added will gain you anything. It needs to be in the center of the concrete and support almost everywhere or the pure weight of the concrete will flatten it.

    Have you read my ODK build thread? In there I talk about using a reciprocating saw, without the blade, to vibrate the edges and base to work the air bubbles out. You might think about this.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    the vibration is key for good concrete work for sure!
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    Re: Concrete counter

    What is the plastic under the chicken wire for? I've never seen that before.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    Plastic is to stop plywood base from wicking water from concrete during curing also read that if concrete shrinks could help minimize cracking bc won't adhere to wood was something that won't hurt so I figured why not


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    Yep if you used plywood you would need something there. Good call.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    I dont think the wire ties are going to hurt you one bit. It will keep the steel from popping out for sure, which is what you want.

    Dont forget to spray the forms with PAM cooking spray before you pour the concrete! Thats gonna look good when it's done. I like it!
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    What is the base made from, looks like a stained wood. I have pressure treated frame built, and was wondering about wood doors. Looking forward to see the outcome here.
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    Framed from PT lumber trimmed with cedar and I made cabinet doors from cedar too, 1/2 ply around perimeter with roof felt lath then stone veneer I had left over from patio roof project 3/4 ply under frame to add support also sitting on casters..


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    Re: Concrete counter

    For third time my quickrete counter top mix has not come in to lowes like I was told. Almost 3 weeks now. Ordered it so I could pour last week while I was on vacation. Vey frustrating since there is a quickcrete plant not far from here but they won't sell to consumer. I may have to find an alternative product. Anyone have suggestions for in expensive sanding options. Thought maybe dry orbital sander? We want it smooth to acid stain not to show aggregate???? I am ready to finish this project already!!


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    Re: Concrete counter

    I bought an orbital sander from harbor freight and diamond pads.

    For what it's worth I used regular 5000 psi concrete from Home Depot.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    I have made 2 fire pit top rings with that mix. I wanted the aggregate exposed and i also have glass poured in the tops. I bought some diamond pads on eBay and used both a regular grinder and also an orbital sander. To not expose you prob need to start with a pretty fine grit as it seams like the top layer polishes away pretty easily.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    Sorry to butt in but had a quick question... I'm probably going to pour concrete countertops when I do my ODK but I will definitely be pouring for a ring for my fire pit. I did a search for Remedy on HD but did not come up with anything. Is it something special for this application? I was probably going to do what Jabooh1 did but add some colorant in it or just stain it afterwards...
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    Re: Concrete counter

    I purchased from through Home Depot and got it in about 3- 4 days. They said I could go to the Quickrete plant about 30 miles away to pick up the bags to get them the same day, but Didn't mind the wait.
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    Re: Concrete counter

    Well poured my counter yesterday!!! Wow thought I would need 6-7 bags used nine. Thankful I had bought 10. Rented mixer for 32$ A GOOD CHOICE. It went well set up a little faster then I thought, but bag called for 1 gallon of water per 80# bag. I thought the mix was a little dry but when I started screeding and vibrating it seemed just fine. Will prob take the side forms off late tonight or tomorrow morning. I trowl finished it pretty darn smooth I was very amazed. I will prob hit the edges and sides a little bit with 200 grit hand sander. Question, this being an outdoor counter with kamado grill in it what is the best sealer against stains?? And how long to wait before I sand, acid stain and seal if?????? I'm so close to being done...


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    Finally poured my counter

    Well poured my counter yesterday!!! Wow thought I would need 6-7 bags used nine. Thankful I had bought 10. Rented mixer for 32$ A GOOD CHOICE. It went well set up a little faster then I thought, but bag called for 1 gallon of water per 80# bag. I thought the mix was a little dry but when I started screeding and vibrating it seemed just fine. Will prob take the side forms off late tonight or tomorrow morning. I trowl finished it pretty darn smooth I was very amazed. I will prob hit the edges and sides a little bit with 200 grit hand sander.

    Question, this being an outdoor counter with kamado grill in it what is the best sealer against stains?? And how long to wait before I sand, acid stain and seal if?????? I'm so close to being done...

    Removed forms hand some pin holes.....even after t on of vibrating. Can I use my same countertop mix for a slurry to fill the holes?



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    Re: Concrete counter

    Use the same mix but remove any aggregate.

    Wait for it to cure for 28 days before you sand.

    After sanding you can stain right away.

    I can't remember the sealer I used but will look it up and let you know.
    ~Paul
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    Thanks Jabooh 1


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    Re: Concrete counter

    any update on the countertop? pics?
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