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    My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Ok first of all I am super embarrassed by how I ran some pipes last fall. I had disaster strike right before closing, pump went out, electrical was dry rotted. And the new pump didn't line up with out replacing all piping and buying a new valve. SO.... I ended up making some crazy piping to line it up because I was in a rush to get it closed down. I figured I could come back this season and re-do everything.

    My question is if my pipe configuration would impede my flow rate? I did notice the new pump lacked in suction when cleaning / closing. But my filter was very dirty and dried out at the time.

    So here it is,

    http://imgur.com/FusoY1R



    Thanks, I will go cry in the corner now.
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    I highly doubt it will make a noticeable impact. I actually think your solution is somewhat hilarious. There are more direct ways, but you got the job done....and it looks like you made it replaceable. two 45 deg angles would do the job.

    biggest problem I see with it is the potential for air to get trapped in the highest point. I suspect after a min of pump running that will not be a problem.

    *note, I'm not an Engineer....
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    I wanted to go with two 45's, it did make the most sense. But when I put the two 45s on the space it moved over was almost 2 inches off. The pipes riding up against each other squeezed it inline.

    Obviously though I have no idea wth I am doing.

    I was mainly worried the flow rate would drop, I didn't even think about air getting trapped. lol
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    How hard would it have been to just move the pump over a bit?

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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Somewhat surprisingly to me, mas985 has taught us here on the forum that 90's don't really restrict flow as much as you would think.

    It certainly looks funky but I doubt you will see less than a 5% drop. I'd leave it until I another remodel and then redo it.

    Of course, all your friends will say. "What the **** is that?"

    You might tell them it is a "centrifugal dirt release" that slams the dirt to one side of the pipe for easy pick up by the filter.
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    LOL! Definitely the most interesting plumbing arrangement ever seen on TFP! Lots of people have that many elbows in their plumbing, just not all at once!
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    I failed to realize I could have moved the pump over more from the filter housing. I had to add a connection to raise the assembly up (thought it would line up). And I didn't want to buy a new valve at the time.
    http://imgur.com/0Yd7C0X

    I failed, but I started it up over the weekend, it seems to work OK. Now I have this crazy configuration. None of my friends know anything about pools luckily. =P

    Thanks for the help!
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Quote Originally Posted by stebs View Post
    how hard would it have been to just move the pump over a bit?
    x2 lol
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Won't make much difference in flow rates. May take a little more to prime pump if it ever needs to be turned off/on.

    Glue some kind of fake looking sensor on top and tell people it is a fun o meter.


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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    LOL:

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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Hey man, you're a good sport.

    I must say, I like the CDR angle Duraleigh points out. Just say that when your friends ask.

    "It's a CDR!! What... didn't you know that?"
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Thanks for the laughs. It's working, don't fix it. Remember the motto. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. It may not be pretty, but it's gotten the job done.
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Once I found out if shouldn't be a problem I am pretty proud to have something so inventive. I think it might speed up flow via the loop, much like a roller coaster.

    In all seriousness thanks everyone for the responses!
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    No, thank you!
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Dude, it's like the super conductor super collider!
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Looks fine to me. Actually that set up will handle vibrations from the pump better than straight pipe will. I have a similar "loop" connected to my house water pump. At least you didn't forget the union fitting.

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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    As long as it works - it works. You ought to see my feed to the pool pump This was before I knew about Jandy valves, etc...
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Why did he need the union?

    I am trying to install a new pump with a lower inlet height. I would prefer not to cut out the two valves prior to the pump inlet. I'm considering some method to step the inlet down, hopefully something that looks less ridiculous than this.
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    Re: My embarrassing pipes... (are they impeding flow?)

    Quote Originally Posted by nomar116 View Post
    Why did he need the union?
    Unions allow maintenance access to piping without having to cut the pipe. I use unions on both sides of every section of pipe so that I can disassemble and drain each section for winter. Imagine having to remove that pump for whatever reason without that union in place.
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