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    Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    My pool is undergoing a renovation currently and I'm thinking of changing up the way my sound system is setup. Previously I have been running a homemade setup that consists of a couple old school 80's components (tuner, amp) a touchscreen monitor, old pc and a couple of Yamaha outdoor speakers. The speakers are mounted to to side of my house aimed toward my pool (and neighbors). I'm considering running some speaker cable out to the back side of the pool and putting some speakers out there, aimed back at the house (and away from the neighbors). We've had the cops called a few times in the past after some late night revelers kept turning up the music. I was considering maybe a rock looking type speaker, or maybe a planter disguised type. More toward the rock type though since they are directional. Looking for something not terribly expensive. Does anyone have any suggestions on something that is of decent sound quality without a ridiculous price tag?
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I am a very big fan of Monoprice.com! I just recently changed all the coax cable throughout my entire house while running Cat6 to all the rooms and also upgrading my surround sound as well as other things too.

    I bought all my HDMI Cables, 6.5" Ceiling Mounted Rear Surrounds, Speaker Wire, Optical Cable, Cat 6 Cable, Keystone Faceplates, Subwoofer, Ethernet switches all from them. I couldn't be happier, they have great customer service, great products and great prices.

    They offer a few different sided rock speakers. Here's a link.

    http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Cata...rchType=Direct

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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z7What View Post
    I am a very big fan of Monoprice.com! I just recently changed all the coax cable throughout my entire house while running Cat6 to all the rooms and also upgrading my surround sound as well as other things too.

    I bought all my HDMI Cables, 6.5" Ceiling Mounted Rear Surrounds, Speaker Wire, Optical Cable, Cat 6 Cable, Keystone Faceplates, Subwoofer, Ethernet switches all from them. I couldn't be happier, they have great customer service, great products and great prices.

    They offer a few different sided rock speakers. Here's a link.

    http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Cata...rchType=Direct

    Wayne
    I didn't even think to look on Monoprice! I have bought from them before as well and been very satisfied with their product. I'll take a look at those. Thanks for the suggestion!

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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by h2oluver View Post
    I didn't even think to look on Monoprice! I have bought from them before as well and been very satisfied with their product. I'll take a look at those. Thanks for the suggestion!
    If the rock speakers are anything like everything else they sell you will be happy. The reviews all seam to be great also!

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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I have the Bose outdoor speakers that you bury halfway in the ground out on the far corners of the pool patio and a pair of regular Bose up on the pergola by the hot tub. Like them both.

    I use a 2 channel Sony receiver with an A channel and a B channel so that I can turn on one pair or the other or both depending on need.

    We generally just listen to the radio but are set up to plug an iPad with pandora on it in as well.


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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    We were going to do the buried Bose speakers and attach to our (indoor) Onkyo Receiver and do different zones - but I am thinking I am going to go with the Big Blue Party Speaker - it has great reviews and then I can move it around and take it with me.

    We just have so much going on with the build - throwing one more thing like burying speaker wires - running them through the attic over to the receiver and then trying to figure out how to actually make it worth seems like more stress than I can take right now.

    Or maybe I am just lazy.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Lazy is awesome! That is why we have pools!
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    lol - then I was MADE for a pool!
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    As soon as the water hits 85 all projects stop until the water is under 85!
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I'm really impressed with the RX550's from OSD. Coupled with their low-priced 120 amp they JAM! At mid levels, very comparable to Polk Audio's
    http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/rxpe51parosp.html

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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Oh wow - is that a volume control? That looks SO professional! Mine would never look that good . . .
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbaby View Post
    Oh wow - is that a volume control? That looks SO professional! Mine would never look that good . . .
    Yes, good eye, it's a volume control. Funny you ask....it's the only part that failed Not sure why and it was a trial for the rest of my set-up. My teenage son may have something to do with that..I noticed our old EX-Series pre-amp showed up and then quickly disappeared after his party. I rewired the whole system without volume controls. The speakers are still cranking!
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I too have a set of OSD rock speakers, I think they are 8". They sound pretty good but after only 2 short years, one has started taking on water. I contacted them, but I was a month or so outside the warranty and they would not help me. I also have a 250W OSD amp, that still works well. It pushes a total of 4 OSD stereo speakers, both left and right channel go to each speaker. I like the stereo speakers a lot for open spaces.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz1...ew?usp=sharing

    I also have a set of Polk Atriums, that I like as well, they have been outside for close to 8 years and have no problems.

    One thing I would recommend for anyone building a pool, even lazy ones, is to bury conduit for your speakers while everything is dug up. I ran electrical conduit out to the pool for the speaker wire, and a few years later running speaker cable out to the pool was an afternoon project, without any digging.

    I also have two volume controls for both sets of OSD speakers, but they are mainly for reducing the volume for a zone, they are best left a full volume for the best sound.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Oh wow - they really DID take on water!
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    That's one thing I didn't pre-plan and wishing I had. At least most of the yard is gravel/rock so i can move it to run wires if I so choose.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Wow, crabboy, that's not good. I wondered how they were designed. Looking closely at them it appears the grill area is not made to be water-tight, so I wonder if they must drain somewhere? Anyway, hate to hijack this thread.....just curious. For the speaker wire, i used the direct bury cable. My set-up is holding up fine for over a year.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I would have liked to go with some Omni directional speakers such as the Bose or TIC, but I'm in the city in a neighborhood with a couple of grumpy old neighbors on a couple of sides of me, and they aren't afraid to call the cops. Especially after dark. So, I was thinking rock speakers that I can aim back toward the house and away from neighbors. Does anyone have any experience with TIC outdoor speakers? They make rock as well as the omnidirectional type. Looks like Bose copied their original design on the omni directionals to some extent. Also, any suggestions on outdoor amps, I see a picture and some mentions of some in previous replies.
    Like I stated originally , I'm using some 80's era technics micro components for my system and its set up in bar area outdoors and does get some moisture and dirt. I've already had one amp get a bath and go into overload mode. I just buy em cheap at Goodwill or ebay.... But it might be nice to have something a little more worry free. To explain my setup, I bought (ebay) a used kiosk touchscreen monitor (like kind at Walgreens photocenter, in fact mine was yellow and said Kodak on it, now painted) Took an old pc from closet and after searching and trialing many jukebox programs purchased Zenpoint digital center http://www.zenpoint.org/ and installed on old pc. Hooked touchscreen monitor up to pc with jukebox program. Pc was hooked up to old 80's era Technics amp with 3.5mm to rca cable. I have a 2 TB drive full of music that is streamed from my inside pc to outdoor jukebox pc. The touchscreen is mounted on a swing arm monitor mount behind the bar, which allows guests to select any type of music they like and add to playlist (much like a touch tunes jukebox at a bar). The jukebox also (with internet conn) has plenty of internet radio, or using the vintage stereo equip, local radio. I will upload some pics of the setup when i get it back together ( I take everything down for winter, speakers included)haven't put back because pool is being remodeled. Nothing fancy looking but everyone that comes over loves it. Just stuff I pieced together from low cost products.
    But back to the speakers and maybe a weatherproof decent sounding amp....?
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Sounds quite a bit more elaborate than my setup, I have no touch screens for selecting music or to order my poolside pizza. I also use a recycled receiver for the music, but I pipe in music from a satellite receiver. One day I will setup the Raspberry Pi to play music controlled from a phone, but I haven't bothered yet.

    When the time comes to replace the rock speakers, I may just bury a post in landscaping and mount some good speakers to them. I'd also probably swap out the 250W amp for a 300W and use the 250W for a dedicated sub.

    I probably would not do OSD again, I do like the amp, but I've seen the same amp other places with a different badge on it.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    Niles Audio is one of the best bang for your buck when it comes to outdoor audio. They have the Garden Subwoofers that you bury, and along with their outdoor rock speakers it is like a serious indoor system. It's awesome and kills the Bose if you get the sub.
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    Re: Suggestions on garden, rock speakers?

    I was planning on a marine subwoofer and build a box out of marine ply, but this is very tempting...

    http://www.amazon.com/Niles-GSS10-Sp...dp/B007T5YV0Y/

    I'd be nice to hear it first...

    I saw in one of the reviews that Niles has a lifetime warranty, sure beats the heck out of the OSD warranty.
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