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    Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    I have a Summer Escapes 14' x 42" with the skimmer attached to an Intex 2500gph pump with paper filter.

    I vacuum the pool and a few hours later it looks like I haven't done anything. The dirt is very fine and I'm going real slow, no trees above pool just clear sky. The water testing is right and water is clear.

    Any Ideas?????


    Thanks,

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    You could mix up some diatomaceous earth and pour it into your skimmer and it will help your filter to filter out smaller particles by effectively clogging it up a bit. Only add a little at a time, as too much can reduce the flow. Although you've got plenty of pump for your size pool. I got some at Ace Hardware. Any pool store should care it too.

    A better filter cartridge might help as well. I know some people here are recommending some alternatives to the Intex filters Sorry, but I don't recall the brand. I have a sand filter myself.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    I know when I when I'm vacuuming my pool by hand I cant go to fast. If I do the dirt just moves around in the water and doesn't get sucked up. A few hours later it settles on the bottom again.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    The Intex cartridge filters leave a lot to be desired. One upgrade would be getting a Filbur/Pleatco/Unicel cartridge instead of the Intex disposable ones. See: http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...A-filter-again

    A better upgrade would be getting one of the sand filters.

    I do not think adding DE to your Intex cartridge is recommended.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Originally Posted by PhilGillis

    First time pool owner. Have a 16x48" intex ultra frame, 1500 gph pump/A filter, and saltwater setup. Kept getting sediment collected on the bottom the pool. Stir it but it would just go through the hand skimmer. Was about to order a sand filter with bigger pump so I could vacuum also as my setup didnt come with filter vac and didn't think my 1500 pump would do it well. Anyway, put a white athletic sock over the return and just stirred up the pool getting the particles in the water versus on the pool bottom. The sock has totally removed all of the grit as I guess it was just going straight through the filter. I do keep filter clean and all that . . But just something as simple and cheap as a sock has the pool absolutely clean and hasn't interfered with chlorine production or any ill effect. Got the tip about the sock here . .so just wanted to say thanks. I still may upgrade to sand . . But it won't be to water/grit conditions. Unbelievable.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    I'll try the sock method first since I have a drawer full

    Thanks everyone......

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Get a Unicel. Difference is night and day. I posted some pics of my Intex cart and the the Unicel after running a week. Intex was still white, Unicel was brown and full of dirt. Unicel is about $15 at Amazon and will last up to 5 years if cleaned properly.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Update,

    I tried the sock "didn't Work"...........Unicel filter "didn't work".............vacuumed real slow "didn't work".........left the vacuum hooked up so that intake was from bottom of the pool "didn't work"........

    Ordered a 5 micron sock that I will try...

    Any other suggestions?

    Thanks again

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Are we sure there is not a chemistry problem and not that it is passing through the filter?
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Are you sure its dirt?

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    It is real fine dirt and checking the water with the AquaChem strips the chemistry is right on. The bio-filter 5 micro sock will be delivered middle of the week. Going to put it on the discharge and try to filter the water.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Test strips are worthless that that does not tell us anything. If you truly want to take control of your pool then you need to invest in one of the Recommended Test Kits.

    Dirt is gritty, can you feel it?

    I am almost willing to bet that your FC level is too low for your CYA level and what you are seeing is actually algae.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    I had this problem also, could never ever get the dirt off bottom, it use to take me 3-4 hours, (with cartridge) and just go super freaking slow. Well that all changed when we upgraded to a sand filter, new learning curve but the difference is night and day. pool has never been cleaner, and only takes about 30-50 minutes, every 7 days. I am so happy we upgraded
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Just say no to strips.

    Drops or nothing.

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

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    Used a pump trap after the pump with a 5 micron filter in the basket, no more fine dirt.

    - - - Updated - - -

    here is what I have done so far.

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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    hey, that looks like a party! Key West, too. woohoo!
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Switching to a sand filter is really the way to go. I can tell you that I am super anal about dirt in the pool and would drive myself absolutely crazy trying to keep it clean. The other thing that really helped was adding some water clarifier which helps all the tiny particles clump together so they can be vacuumed. I still get sediment on the pool floor but my pool is under two really annoying trees. I also notice an increase in sediment after the pool has been shocked, but once I vacuum (which I do about every other day) it disappears.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    I think you put a band-aid on it and your chemistry is likely not correct.

    You ditch the strips and get a real test kit yet?
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferW View Post
    Switching to a sand filter is really the way to go. I can tell you that I am super anal about dirt in the pool and would drive myself absolutely crazy trying to keep it clean. The other thing that really helped was adding some water clarifier which helps all the tiny particles clump together so they can be vacuumed. I still get sediment on the pool floor but my pool is under two really annoying trees. I also notice an increase in sediment after the pool has been shocked, but once I vacuum (which I do about every other day) it disappears.
    With TFPC, there is no reason to use clarifier. The only time a SLAM occurs is if there is presence of CC or the water turns due to forgetting to add chlorine.
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    Re: Vacuum Pool, Dirt returns within a couple hours????

    Ok, I have the Taylor kit and slammed the pool, here are my numbers CYA 40, FC 8, CC .5, PH 7.6, TA 70, CH 90. I did the overnight test and it lost 1.5 of FC and CC went to zero. Is 1.5 lost too much overnight? Should I slamm for a little longer?

    Thanks for all the help
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