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    Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Whenever I use the skimmer cap and put it over my skimmer basket, it never create enough suction to pull anything and often lose suction. I gave up on that and removed everything and shove the vacuum hose straight into the suction hole. I love the pressure, so strong it can probably suck an eyeball out.

    Although my pump skimmer catch a lot of this, is that a bad idea?
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    I do the same. But I'm wary of sticking the hose directly in, as a few years ago someone lost the sleeve off the end of the hose and it got caught in the underground plumbing. I use a threaded PVC coupling and a hose barb.The adaptor is too big to get sucked down the hole.
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye... 😉
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    I do the same. But I'm wary of sticking the hose directly in, as a few years ago someone lost the sleeve off the end of the hose and it got caught in the underground plumbing. I use a threaded PVC coupling and a hose barb.The adaptor is too big to get sucked down the hole.
    Can you post a picture?
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Do you have multiple skimmers, or just the one? And do you have a main drain?

    I have 2 skimmers and a dual main drain.

    For me to get suction and avoid your issues, I have to go to my valves, and close the other skimmer, and then I half close the main drain. At that point the vacuum stays easily in place. Are you following this type of practice? Also, are you filling the vacuum hose with water before trying to get the skimmer to hold the hose into place?
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by dannieboiz View Post
    Although my pump skimmer catch a lot of this, is that a bad idea?
    I think it's a bad idea, because I think that's how I got a lot of debris in one on my skimmer lines. Not positive, though, so I'm not sure it's a bad idea.

    I did find a good solution to the problem of sucking too much debris into the skimmer line: get an in-line leaf filter. It plugs onto the end of the vacuum hose & into the skimmer. The leaf filter has a mesh bag inside, kind of like the mesh on a leaf skimmer or a Polaris pool cleaner. I love my leaf filter. Traps big debris, so I'm not worried about clogging the lines, and traps an amazing amount of small, sandy debris. I can actually vacuum while on filter mode. Used to have to vacuum to waste to keep the water clear. Wish I had known about this gadget 20-years ago.

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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by aeromitch37 View Post
    Can you post a picture?


    The end of the vacuum hose fits snug in the threads. There's a step inside my skimmer hole that keeps the coupler from going down inside. Just measure the hole with a tape measure and then go wander the hardware store.
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by CUTiger78 View Post
    I think it's a bad idea, because I think that's how I got a lot of debris in one on my skimmer lines. Not positive, though, so I'm not sure it's a bad idea.

    I did find a good solution to the problem of sucking too much debris into the skimmer line: get an in-line leaf filter. It plugs onto the end of the vacuum hose & into the skimmer. The leaf filter has a mesh bag inside, kind of like the mesh on a leaf skimmer or a Polaris pool cleaner. I love my leaf filter. Traps big debris, so I'm not worried about clogging the lines, and traps an amazing amount of small, sandy debris. I can actually vacuum while on filter mode. Used to have to vacuum to waste to keep the water clear. Wish I had known about this gadget 20-years ago.

    Good luck!
    I can't seem to find one that fits into my skimmer, what model do you happen to have ?
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    beside all those bad things that could happen, I assume it's ok if I'm 100% sure there's nothing in the pool. I'm just pulling sand and stuff off the bottom
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by toofast View Post
    I can't seem to find one that fits into my skimmer, what model do you happen to have ?
    I'm pretty sure I have the Pentair 186 "Snap Open" Leaf Trap. I'm using the hose that came w/ my Kreepy Krauly and it came with an adapter for the skimmer hole. You can buy that adapter separately, as a replacement part for the Kreepy Krauly Great White.
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    Re: Vacuum hose directly into skimmer suction hole?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post

    ....[snipped] and then go wander the hardware store.
    +1; One of my favorite pastimes!!!
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