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    Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Okay this will be my third year having a pool. It is a 40 yesr old sylan pool and we are having it renovated starting this week by anthony and sylvan. We bought the house with it and for the last two years i have been using leslies. So with the renovation coming up and i will be a plaster with quartz finish now instead of painted concrete i figured it was best to come back on this board and start reading the pool school. I will be needing your guys help as it seems it is best to do your own testing and adding chemicals from what i read on tfp.

    So far let me see if i have this right, it is best to use bleach/liquid chlorine then any of the other granular or powder chlorine?
    Also 3" pucks are not needed if you use bleach so you do not raise the cya and make the chlorine inaffective?
    Also i wasnt sure which is the best test kit i should buy from the comparison chart and i will need help learning how to test. Any links are much appreciated. I will be sticking around this time as i want to protect our pool investment and learn to do it myself with the help of tfp. Thanks guys.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Alright, welcome back to TFP. Good job on the signature and location.

    You've got the basics correct on using bleach/liquid chlorine vs pucks. You can use pucks when going on vacation as long as you test and manage you CYA level. It is very important to maintain CYA level in your pool and pucks is one way to add CYA to your pool when you need it, the other is granular CYA in a sock in your skimmer basket. Alternatively you can use a saltwater chlorine generator, here is a link on How to Chlorinate Your Pool.

    Here is some info on test kits, my preference is TF100, Test Kit Comparison

    Here is a summary on water chemistry, ABC's of Pool Water Chemistry

    Here is a page showing what the recommended levels are for your pool, Recommended Levels

    And finally, here is a calculator to help you determine how much and what to add to maintain those levels, Pool Calculator Instructions
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Im coming from test strips and granular chlorine lol
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    What about the phosfree stuff for algae? I have seen no mention of that in the pool school. Am i correct on my reading that if you maintain proper fc levels then you should not have algae problems therefore no need for phos free?
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    You got it!

    It looks like you are really taking in what you have read. I love that you are asking questions to make sure.

    Here is a link to a test kit video. I think it show how to do all of the tests.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMe0rJJli8A

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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Right on! Keep your FC above min level here Chlorine CYA Chart and never have algae. If you do get algae then SLAM it, SLAMing Your Pool.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Yes, you are learning fast. The TF100 is a repackaged kit of the same reagents in the taylor k2006. It costs more up front, but less in the long run (which could easily be one season) because it has more reagents of those you use frequently. Like Free Chlorine. K2006 ends up costing more replacing the reagents.

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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Thanks so far guys. I am gonna order the tf100 kit this weekend. As far as my renovation goes ill keep ya updated with pics as we are taking them with a drone from up above. Just took the cover off so ill post the before pic that i have already.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Pool and yard was left abandoned. Got the pool up and running and replaced all the equipment for new as i am a plumber so i had some know how to there. We took down 28 trees in the back yard and eventually got some grass.



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    Heres is the before renovation pic from the drone up above
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Bad pool!

    But we've seen way worse turned around here with what we teach.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    yeah I do not see any tadpoles or floating, growing stuff LOL!

    28 trees??? WOW!

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    Looking good, that is a great setting. A nice renovated pool is going to be great!
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    O it was a swamp lol. I just dont have any of the swamp pics. I just drained it and scrubbed it with acid and water. It has missing tiles, 8 layers of paint chipping, and all the decking has dropped around it. So we are doing a full renovation... Tile, plaster with quartz, cantilever deck stamped stained concrete, led light, new skimmer and plumbing.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    What is this actual tf100 test kit? Is it made up from this forum? Where is the best place to buy it?
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    Here is some info, Test Kit Comparison

    Order them at http://tftestkits.net

    The great people who own this site also own tftestkits.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mical718 View Post
    Thanks so far guys. I am gonna order the tf100 kit this weekend. As far as my renovation goes ill keep ya updated with pics as we are taking them with a drone from up above. Just took the cover off so ill post the before pic that i have already.
    I think I heard that their free shipping offer ends today or tomorrow. Just an FYI.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Yeah i see that but i only am getting the $68 kit and you need to buy $80 worth of item for free shipping.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Get a speed stir.
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    Get a speed stir.
    Yes, that is a must have!
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    Re: Pretty much a new guy to the inground pool world. Renovation starts this week.

    What do you use the speed stir for? All the tests or just one part of it? What do the people without a speed stir do?
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