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    Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    I installed a 24' round by 4' deep late last year in Rochester, NY.

    Because it was late in the year I held off on my electric because of heavy rains and plan on having it done early spring. I also purchased a Raypak NG 200K BTU heater that I plan on installing this year as well.

    So I'm going to need an electrician to install my electric and a plumber to install the gas line. My electrical box is about the same distance as the gas, around 60 feet away. The inspector says the electrical line and gas pipe can go in the same trench they just have to be a certain amount of distance from each other.

    I was quoted $2,600 to run the electric (4x4 post, couple of GFI outlets, sleeve on post to make it look nice) and run the gas.

    Does this sound about right to everyone? Also, how thick do you think the gas line should be going that distance? I've heard 1" and I've heard an 1 1/4".

    Any help and opinions would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure I forgot something so please let me know and I'll give you details.

    Thanks

    Scaboney

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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Gas pipe is not cheap, so that could be reasonable for turn-key for both electric and gas.

    For 60 feet (which does not include losses due to fittings), 1" supports about 230k BTUs ... once losses are included, this would be marginal in my mind.
    1.25" supports about 512k BTU ... a significant bump for likely not much increase in cost. This is what I would do ... leaves you extra margin for adding BBQ or larger heater in the future.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Thanks! Anyone else have any input?

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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    That doesnt sound like a bad price to me for both gas and electric turnkey. I was quoted 1500 for about 70 feet of electric only to my storage outbuilding. All I wanted was a light and couple of outlets in there.

    I agree with jblizzle about going with the larger gas pipe to leave some margin in case you add something some day, or maybe decide to get a bigger heater.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Hopefully whoever quoted the job for you quoted a cost that included the correct sized line for the gas. Also, did they look at your meter to see if you would need a regulator at the end of the line by the heater?
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Does the gas pipe need to get hooked directly to the meter?

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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Quote Originally Posted by scaboney View Post
    Does the gas pipe need to get hooked directly to the meter?
    No. They can tie you in at a suitable location using a "T". When doing work around the house my rule of thumb is to get "3" quotes. A licensed plumber will know what size pipe you need to support your gas heater. There is NO guessing here.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Thanks! Question. If there is inch pipe coming into the house, you can't hook 1 1/4 to that correct? The 1 1/4 has to be coming straight from the meter itself and not vise versa correct?

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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Your question doesn't really make any sense, and the answer doesn't matter even if it did. You need to get a licensed master plumber to figure out the correct way to hook it up, which will depend on a number of details you haven't mentioned yet. There is no real point in trying to second guess what they are going to do.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion View Post
    Your question doesn't really make any sense, and the answer doesn't matter even if it did. You need to get a licensed master plumber to figure out the correct way to hook it up, which will depend on a number of details you haven't mentioned yet. There is no real point in trying to second guess what they are going to do.
    Well said.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    We were quoted $40 / linear foot for gas line install on 1.5" line.
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    Re: Newby who needs help and doesn't want to get ripped off

    Quote Originally Posted by txnole View Post
    We were quoted $40 / linear foot for gas line install on 1.5" line.


    Thanks!

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