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    Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    So my Ecotech 1.5 hp VS motor finally shipped from being on backorder for quite awhile and I am preparing for the install.

    Currently at my pool pad I have a mechanical Intermatic timer, and do NOT have a local disconnect.

    I will be removing the Intermatic timer.

    1. What is the recommended surge protector for a variable speed motor? I have a Intermatic PS3000 in my cart online right now.

    2. What is the recommended disconnect at the pool pad? I have an Intermatic PA600 in my cart online now.

    3. Is there anything other that I should add while I'm doing the install?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    You can wire it to the timer and use the timer as the disconnect. Just take the start/stop tabs off the clock.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Is the PS3000 what you used for your Intelliflo?

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Mine is just the plain old intermatic mechanical time clock. I don't have a surge protector at all. That looks like it will work great. Guess I probably should order one too.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Quote Originally Posted by pooldv View Post
    Mine is just the plain old intermatic mechanical time clock. I don't have a surge protector at all. That looks like it will work great. Guess I probably should order one too.

    Ya I figured for me, I could use the intermatic mechanical timer as the disconnect.

    I was just thinking that if there was ever an emergency where we needed to shut the pump off it would be easier for the wife or company to see a BIG red switch that says off.

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    I just bought this unit. Where would be the best place to install it?. I have a sub panel next to the pool equipment, should I install it there or the panel in the garage about 100 ft away from the pool.

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    If you put it in the main panel it will protect the house and the pool panel. Assuming the pool panel gets power from the main panel.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    I have two surge protectors, a larger one (Eaton Ultra 109420) on my main service panel to protect all the electronics in the house and a smaller one on my pool sub panel. The one on the pool equipment only cost $25.

    Amazon.com: Square D by Schneider Electric SDSA1175 Panel Mounted Single Phase Type 1 Surge Protective Device: Home Improvement

    The reason for a second one on the pool panel is that the long run from main panel to pool sub panel can act as an antenna picking up a surge from nearby lighting.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Thanks for the information. I do not have one on the garage panel at this time so just installing it at the pool breaker box would be fine?. I do have one on the main panel at the house but not the garage feeding the pool.

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Yes, installing it at the pool panel is fine.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    I should have clarified. The house and garage are on separate meters, separate service. Thanks. The house has a surge device on it's panel, the garage does not. The garage is roughly 100-125 ft from the pool panel. The pool is wired through the garage service. Since it is such a long run I was thinking it might be better to put the protector at the pool panel or does it even make any difference?.

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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Ok, I see, with a long run it might be a little better to put it at the pool panel. But, the garage panel should protect both.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    Just remember that, if your pool panel has two phases (most do if there's any 220V pumps or heaters), then the surge protector you choose must protect both hot connections. Typically 2-phase surge protectors are slightly more expensive and they will require two slots in your panel.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    At a distance of 125 feet you should have a surge protector at the garage panel too. It's relatively cheap insurance if you have regular thunderstorms. Also you need to make sure you have a disconnect visible from the pump. No the timer does no count.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    The $25 Square D one I posted is for 220v service. It has a limited capacity, I wouldn't recommend it for your entire house, but for a pool sub panel it should suffice.
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    Re: Variable speed install recommended electrical components.

    I installed one of these at the pool panel.

    I think I will get one for the garage as well. The disconnect is about 2 ft from the pump.

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