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    Please help me choose the right valve

    These are the valves that I currently have for my deck jets:



    I need to replace one (and will probably replace all of them), but I'm not sure what the best options are. I've seen a lot of recommendations for Jandy NeverLube valves, but I'm not sure if they are over-kill for this purpose.

    Also, if anyone has recommendations on the best way to replace given this layout/design it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    PVC valves stiffen up and sometimes leak and seize up. No problems like that with the Neverlube (or equivalent valves).

    For these deck jets, you could consider some of the PVC valves that use unions on both sides, then you could replace the valve part easily if you have a problem in the future.

    For a valve that is rarely turned, a ball valve can be ok. But I would want something better if the valves are turned often.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    PVC valves stiffen up and sometimes leak and seize up. No problems like that with the Neverlube (or equivalent valves).

    For these deck jets, you could consider some of the PVC valves that use unions on both sides, then you could replace the valve part easily if you have a problem in the future.

    For a valve that is rarely turned, a ball valve can be ok. But I would want something better if the valves are turned often.
    Thanks for the response. What are the NeverLube like equivalents that would be recommended?
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    The ones that look the same from Hayward or Pentair.
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    I'll be honest with you and say that in time, those valves wont seal, the handles will break, or both. It will take several years most likely, but it will happen.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick_B View Post
    I'll be honest with you and say that in time, those valves wont seal, the handles will break, or both. It will take several years most likely, but it will happen.
    Are you talking about the valves in my photo? You're exactly right. That's why I need to replace one, and will probably replace all. Jandy NeverLube seems like overkill, but it's not sounding like there are many options in between.
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    Yep it stinks. But it's an investment, in your time and not having to deal with it again in a few years.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    The appropriate Pentair valve costs roughly $25 on the Internet. It is a little more expensive than a ball valve, but hardly cost prohibitive. The Jandy version is under $45, more but not all that much more.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Plus, the added benefit of the Jandy/Pentair/Hayward valves is that they can be easily rebuilt without having to replace the plumbed in body.

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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_k View Post
    Are you talking about the valves in my photo? You're exactly right. That's why I need to replace one, and will probably replace all. Jandy NeverLube seems like overkill, but it's not sounding like there are many options in between.

    Yes, that's what I meant, and for all the reasons from other posters above. It really isn't much "overkill" if any.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Amazon had the Jandy Neverlubes for the cheapest when I replaced mine FYI. Good luck.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Thanks for all of the replies. Sounds like it's a good investment.

    Any tips on the best way to remove the old and install the new?
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Get a good set of PVC cutters would be my suggestion, but perhaps you ca borrow a pair if you never will cut PVC on a regular basis.

    Go to a place with a large selection of PVC, like an irrigation supply house and get CLEAR primer. They might even rent you cutters, but I doubt it.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    All the PB's that I interviewed in Houston all use Jandy Neverlube valves.
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    Re: Please help me choose the right valve

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick_B View Post
    Get a good set of PVC cutters would be my suggestion, but perhaps you ca borrow a pair if you never will cut PVC on a regular basis.

    Go to a place with a large selection of PVC, like an irrigation supply house and get CLEAR primer. They might even rent you cutters, but I doubt it.
    Thanks. I'll look into cutters. I saw a YouTube video where the guy used pool-specific PVC cement. Is this needed?
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