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    Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Hey all......We moved this past summer to another home with a pool. Smaller pool, but gained a spa in return. New pool is about +/-10,000 gallons. A few days ago, I was empting out the leaves in the pool and smelled something burning. Pool equipment is just out of sight of the pool. Walked the net of leaves to the woods and noticed my filter was missing. Looking closer, I discovered that my entire equipment pad (less bubbler) was smoldering! What a shock! Pump had been getting louder and was planning on replacing once it stopped. Never imagined I would find it on fire! Most THANKFUL gas meter didn't catch fire and burn down house. See pictures below.

    A local builder has recommended the following replacements:
    Pentair« Intelliflo VS« Pump for pool spa
    Pool filter Pentair« Quad 100 DE« filter
    Pentair« EasyTouch« 8 circuit pool & spa control system
    Pentair« IC 40 salt water chlorine generator
    Pentair« Mastertemp« 400,000 BTU gas heater
    Pentair« ScreenLogic« wireless interface to allow system to be controlled by smart devices

    Thoughts? Thinking the I could go with a smaller heater and an IC 20 SWG to save some money (it is a small pool after all).
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    New Pool: Pentair Intelliflo VS Pump, Pentair Quad 100 DE filter, Pentair EasyTouch control system, Pentair IC 40 SWG, Pentair Mastertemp 400,000 BTU gas heater, Pentair ScreenLogic wireless interface, Spa, Polaris QT Blower, Polaris 9450 pool cleaner, Gunite w/ Pebble Tec, 10K Gallons
    Old Pool: david-and-kristy-s-pool-build-t8676.html

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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Given most of GA's electric rate, I'd probably go with a 2-speed Whisperflo pump unless you have some overbearing reason that you require a variable speed.
    I agree with the IC-20 being a better choice. An IC-40 would be pretty large on that pool/spa.
    I'd most likely stay with the 400k heater as it would allow you to heat the spa up fast and there's only about $500 difference between the 250k and the 400k. And you'll wish you'd have spent the extra $500 once you start using it.
    The 8 circuit Easytouch would be my recommendation too.
    As for the Screenlogic, that's a personal call. If it's important to you then go for it.
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    Sad pics. I ain't believing the shot of that "missing' filter!
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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    What pump and filter did you have? Is that what it looked like when you found it or has something been removed?

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    Wow!
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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Looks like a RF gas meter. They will most likely require a pressure test before it's replaced. They may do it or pass it along to you to have it done.
    17500 gallon Doughboy AGP, Hayward DE filter, waiting for the 1.5hp DB pump to go out.
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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesW View Post
    What pump and filter did you have? Is that what it looked like when you found it or has something been removed?
    I too wonder. How can the entire metal motors be gone? And all parts of the filter besides the sand are gone? With all the leaves next to the pad, how was there not a brush fire started?
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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    The pictures are how I found it. I had a Hayward sand filter, Aqua Plus automation and chlorination, and, I believe, a Pentair Challenger 1hp single speed pump. I should have taken a picture of the equipment when we moved in. I was surprised that the leaves/pine straw didn't burn. I didn't winterize, so I'm guessing the water from the filter and pipes put out the fire.

    A concrete pad will be poured to put the new equipment on. Burned equipment sat on blocks.

    Atlanta Gas Light was out within the hour and replaced the meter with a new one and tested all of the gas lines.
    New Pool: Pentair Intelliflo VS Pump, Pentair Quad 100 DE filter, Pentair EasyTouch control system, Pentair IC 40 SWG, Pentair Mastertemp 400,000 BTU gas heater, Pentair ScreenLogic wireless interface, Spa, Polaris QT Blower, Polaris 9450 pool cleaner, Gunite w/ Pebble Tec, 10K Gallons
    Old Pool: david-and-kristy-s-pool-build-t8676.html

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    Did you find any part of the pump motor?

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    In that first picture it looks like the leaves are not near the filter or pumps. Glad your house did not start fire and no one was hurt. Was that enough to make a home owners claim?
    Approx 11K Gal. 10'X30' Semi free-form IG - 6 ' raised spa w/6 jets - 10' circle sun shelf with 1 bubbler - Waterfall - 3 / 1.5 HP pumps - Polaris 280 Cleaner - 3 Pentair Color LED Intellibrite Lights - Pentair 400K Master Temp - 2 Valve Actuators - 5 Fiberstar Mini Laminars - 1 Fiberstars 2004 Illuminator - 2 Skimmers - 6 Returns - Caribbean Blue Pebble Tech - 600+ sq ft kool decK - Auto Fill - 2 Boston Acoustics VOYA RK5 Outdoor Rock Speakers - 2 TIC Corporation TFS5CN 6.5-Inch 150-Watt Terra-Forms Rock Speakers - Apple Airport Express - 1 Awesome View.

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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    This is what's visible of the motor:
    Pool Equipment Burn 6.jpg

    I'll end up filing a claim. Talked with my agent today. I'm afraid to see what it will do to my rates the next time I renew. But I've got to have a pool for the family!
    New Pool: Pentair Intelliflo VS Pump, Pentair Quad 100 DE filter, Pentair EasyTouch control system, Pentair IC 40 SWG, Pentair Mastertemp 400,000 BTU gas heater, Pentair ScreenLogic wireless interface, Spa, Polaris QT Blower, Polaris 9450 pool cleaner, Gunite w/ Pebble Tec, 10K Gallons
    Old Pool: david-and-kristy-s-pool-build-t8676.html

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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    .....snipped..... With all the leaves next to the pad, how was there not a brush fire started?
    I wondered the same but I think that any water in the pipes and filter would have provided some suppression. Regardless, these are some pretty incredible pix. Glad it wasn't worse.
    13,000 gal.Peanut shaped IG Plaster (med. gray) w/ 7' raised spa. ALL Pentair: Intelliflow 3hp VS, Cartridge filter, 400,000 btu heater, 2.0hp spa motor, Easy Touch control panel & is4 spa side switch, Intellichlor 40C SWG, Paramount PV3 In Floor cleaning system, spa spillway and two sheer descents. Solar: 10 FAFCO panels 1.5hp booster. Testt kits: K-2006 & K1766 (Chloride/Salt) Fill date August 15, 2114.

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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    There but by the Grace... Glad your house is okay!

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    Probably not much as when I made a claim for Hurricane Ike it really did nothing to my rates.
    Approx 11K Gal. 10'X30' Semi free-form IG - 6 ' raised spa w/6 jets - 10' circle sun shelf with 1 bubbler - Waterfall - 3 / 1.5 HP pumps - Polaris 280 Cleaner - 3 Pentair Color LED Intellibrite Lights - Pentair 400K Master Temp - 2 Valve Actuators - 5 Fiberstar Mini Laminars - 1 Fiberstars 2004 Illuminator - 2 Skimmers - 6 Returns - Caribbean Blue Pebble Tech - 600+ sq ft kool decK - Auto Fill - 2 Boston Acoustics VOYA RK5 Outdoor Rock Speakers - 2 TIC Corporation TFS5CN 6.5-Inch 150-Watt Terra-Forms Rock Speakers - Apple Airport Express - 1 Awesome View.

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    I would definitely recommend having an electrician check the breaker in the house and the wires going from the breaker to outside.

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    Re: Pool Equipment Fire - Replace

    Sorry this happened!

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