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    Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    Hello All!

    Very excited to be here, but very nervous to be starting this process to become a brand new pool owner. We've narrowed our PB search down to 2 we like; however one insists they will not build a pool without piers in our town, the other (who happens to be the oldest pool company in DFW) said their engineer said we don't need them. I'm just wondering what other North Texas pool owners have done in this situation.

    I have so many questions, so you'll be hearing from me a lot...but this one has me stumped and I can't move forward.

    We are looking at having an independent engineer give us their opinion. We're also waiting for our builder to send us a soil test. But in the meantime, I'd love to hear your opinions.

    Thank you!
    Janice

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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    Hello Janice and welcome to the forums. Be sure to read pool school: http://www.troublefreepool.com/content/
    Lots of good info.

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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    The need for piers very much depends on your local soil conditions so it is difficult for us to comment. There are also other things that can be done to eliminate or at least minimize the need for piers.
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    I would definitely trust an engineer over a pool builder.
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    Quote Originally Posted by zethacat View Post
    I would definitely trust an engineer over a pool builder.
    It's odd that the one without the engineer is the one saying they need piers. If I had to have piers on a pool I had put in I'd want like a 50 year warranty on cracks . That's some serious reinforcement for a hole in the ground. We're having a new section added at work. In previous expansions we've had to drive metal I beam piers. This time we had to dig 64 50ft holes with concrete and rebar to reinforce the pad the new equipment is going on. I guess I depends on code and the specific soil sample they get. Definitely get a third quote and a decent warranty.



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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    We are smack in the middle of black clay north texas dirt. We have piers under the house and it still moves. We do not have piers under our pool. Our pool builder who lives down the street doesn't have piers under his pool. We put drip irrigation around the pool after the first year with some movement. Our pool still moves a little, but a lot less than it did the first year without drip irrigation. Even soil moisture is the key to minimize movement here. We discussed piers with our PB and he pretty much said no way. Dirt here moves up and down, it doesn't only sink. He said he has seen pool shells ripped of their piers when the dirt moves up. Our pool shell has a lifetime warranty.
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    I live in Highland Village and have had my pool for 20 years with no piers. As someone stated earlier my shell (pool) is warranteed to hold water for life. So far I have had no problems with the pool moving but am trying to find a leak which is probably in a fiiting.
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    When we lived in Plano we had a pool built by Sandler Pools and they did not use piers. Now this was back in 1987 but we lived in that house for 10 years and never had 1 issue with that pool. (Unlike my current pool)
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    No piers.. lots of rebar, Waxahachie here.
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    Re: Piers or no piers in North Texas?

    Thank you for all of the responses. We're definitely leaning towards "no piers". I appreciate all of your input!

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