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    Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    I have a 24' round above ground pool. 1.5hp pump with a Pentair clean and clean 150 and been using the bleach method for two years with great results. This winter I let the pool go and had a some algae at the bottom so I started by sweeping the bottom and walks and throwing in bleach, normally I canpass the over night test within a week this time it's different. After a week the pool is blue but still cloudy. CYA was 25 and I felt my chlorine levels right at 20. But my biggest concern is the pool filter will have great flow out the return then within 20 mins it'll slow way down. So I'll take the filter out and clean and then same results. Yesterday I took it out and soaked it in TSP for a couple hours then rinsed really good then acid washed the filter. Reinstalled and same results. Filter is only 3 years old and when I first started the pool that filter had 2psi (3 years ago) now this year with mutiple cleanings I can't get it below 14psi. Do I need a new filter? The bands are broke on the filter but the filter itself has no tears or anything. It looks clean, no stains or anything. Past two years I would only clean the filter just because I wanted to make sure it was clean. Which was about 2x times a year, it would never have a pressure increase. My pool doesn't get much debris. I have noticed that it is slimy in between the pleats of the filter and even after acid washing it's still their? Pool is still cloudy, could the slime be the dead algae I killed in the pool? Or should I just keep throwing bleach in it with the low flow on the filter system?
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
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    150sqft Cartridge Filter
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Have you tested your FC/CC levels? Can you post a set of test results?
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    pH-7.2
    FC- 1.5 ( I know it's low haven't keep bleach in it while figuring out filter)
    CC-1.0
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    You'll need to SLAM. Sounds like live algae is clogging the filter.
    You could take out the filter, give it a through cleaning, while you start the slam/circulate the water. Then replace the filter to capture the dead algae.
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...efeating-algae
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...ntain-shocking

    What's your water temp? Where are you located?
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Not sure of the water temp. But outside temp is 66 degrees, located in south Louisiana and pool is half in ground.
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Guess I'll start the SLAM process again just not sure how well it's working being the filter needs cleaning after 5 mins. Hate to put a new filter in and clog that one too. So I'll start the slam process again and just clean the filter once a day and see if I make any headway. I'll report back through the process
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    The reason I asked, is algae tends to grow slower in cold water.
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Is their any benefit/down fall to having the chlorine way over the limit. Instead of having my chlorine at 15 say I keep it at 30 will the process work faster?
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
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    150sqft Cartridge Filter
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Yes, but If you'd be best bumping it overnight and never let it come below shock level during the day, sunlight breaks down the chlorine also.

    Cut and Paste from: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...ntain-shocking
    Higher FC levels will oxidize contaminates more quickly, but levels that are too high can cause damage to the pool or the pool equipment. Recommended shock levels are designed to break down contaminates reasonably quickly while posing minimal risk to the pool. It is impossible to know in advance just how much chlorine will be required to SLAM the pool. Instead, chlorine is added to maintain shock level until testing shows that the process is complete.
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    That's what I was looking for, thanks.
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    I think that slime you're feeling inside the pleats is your main issue. I would acid wash again. If you see it react and you get foam fluffing out from between the pleats, then you know you are getting rid of stuff you need to get rid of.

    I have seen the exact same thing happen because of what you are describing. You're cleaning stuff off that was sitting on top of that slimy layer, but that slimy layer is still going to inhibit flow as if the filter was completely dirty. The less bare paper you can feel going from the outside of the pleats in, the more useless the filters are gonna be. If you have the knowledge or the means to see what your flow rate is, it would help you understand just how bad those filters are affecting performance.

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Yah after soaking it in TSP for hours then rinsing really good then I soaked it in acid for about 30-40 mins did not see any foaming at all. I put it back in the pool and it only took a few mins. Before flow slowed again. I did something your not suppose to after that and hit it with the pressure washer and helped a little but still have the problem.
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamull2852 View Post
    Yah after soaking it in TSP for hours then rinsing really good then I soaked it in acid for about 30-40 mins did not see any foaming at all. I put it back in the pool and it only took a few mins. Before flow slowed again. I did something your not suppose to after that and hit it with the pressure washer and helped a little but still have the problem.
    I guess you're just picking up new live algae real fast like bobo said. I always make a point to peek and feel between the pleats before they go back in. If you still have a full load of slime on them then you will have filtering issues like what you described.

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Will do thanks a lot. Still in the slamming process water is getting clearer and I'll just keep the filter clean and see what happens thanks.
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
    Vinyl Liner
    150sqft Cartridge Filter
    Bottom Drain

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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Pool is getting better each day, no more slime in the filter. Can see the whole bottom of the floor of the pool but slightly cloudy so I'm still slamming it. Even without the slime it still losing flow after about a half hour after cleaning. Like I said brand new it ran at 3-4 psi and now running at 12-14 after cleaning so I'll see if it gets any better when SLAM process is finished, may just be time for a new filter. Will update
    24' Round Above ground 13,500 gallons
    1.5 HP pump.
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Keep going. Maintain shock level, you'll get there! It may be time for new filter.
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Don't you mean a new cartridge? Why would the whole filter need to be replaced?
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Yah I say filter but mean cartridge. Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by zethacat View Post
    Don't you mean a new cartridge? Why would the whole filter need to be replaced?
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    I think 3 years is a good run for a cartridge, especially one that's been power washed.
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    Re: Cartridge filter losing flow after minutes.

    Here's the cleaning instructions straight from Pleatco: http://www.pleatco.com/faq/pleatco_faq.pdf

    The cartridge filters do have a "life" and do need to be replaced occasionally, but I'd wait to replace till your done with this bout of algae. Remember never let your FC level go below the level recommended here http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...art-slam-shock and you shouldn't have an algae issue again.
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