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    Leak in my heat exchanger!

    The idiots screwed the L brackets that hold the heater to the concrete pad, right through the casing and the heat echanger slid over during time, and put a pencil tip sized hole right in the heat exchanger!!! Company that installed wants $1800 to fix it. I had to ask them, even though I don't want them touching it after screwing sheet metal screws through the casing which punctured the existing one. I tried patching with putty and fiberglass wrap but still a drip.

    I can't see what BTU the current heater is, I think it all wore off the stickers.

    I have a
    7 foot spa diameter about 3.5 feet deep.
    Pool is about 12000 Gallons.

    I have all Jandy, and I have seen horrible reviews on the Jandy heaters.

    I would like something more more efficient of course, so maybe I could afford the electric on heating the pool to 80 or so during the winter.

    Looking for suggestions on:
    BTU Heater to get (Need Electric, have no gas)
    Heater Model to Get
    Can I install myself? Looks pretty easy, I was an ET in the Navy so any wiring doesn't scare me. I can get it from the front to the back with a dolly no problem, all flat.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Do you know the make and model of the heater. It may be easier to get a new heat exhanger online and install yourself. You should be able to look up the manual for the heater as well to see what is needed to replace it.
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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Hello,
    You'll want a heat pump heater the bigger the better (depends on what you can afford). I inherited a Heat Siphon when I bought the house. They seem pretty durable/easy to maintain. I like the fact that it's all analog.
    They all seem to cost the same/ballpark pricing. http://www.heatsiphon.com/index.html
    This post list a site that compare pricing with the different heaters: http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...l=1#post751969

    Any heater will need the pump running to circulate the water.
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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco View Post
    Do you know the make and model of the heater. It may be easier to get a new heat exhanger online and install yourself. You should be able to look up the manual for the heater as well to see what is needed to replace it.
    It is a Rome Industries 130Ti. It looked like there was a refrigerant line going into it so I didn't think I could install that piece of it, figured need to evacuate the refrigerant or something then charge it again.

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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobodaclown View Post
    Hello,
    You'll want a heat pump heater the bigger the better (depends on what you can afford). I inherited a Heat Siphon when I bought the house. They seem pretty durable/easy to maintain. I like the fact that it's all analog.
    They all seem to cost the same/ballpark pricing. http://www.heatsiphon.com/index.html
    This post list a site that compare pricing with the different heaters: http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...l=1#post751969

    Any heater will need the pump running to circulate the water.
    Yeah I have the pump and everything setup, just put a new Jandy 1.0HP vaiable speed in.

    So the bigger the better, sounds like my logic as well, will bigger also be more energy efficient? I guess it is a case by case basis, just wondering if more BTU's will make my energy lower cost saying run the same amount of time at same temp. Like a vette actually gets good gas mileage when you are not flooring it all the time.

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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Heat Exchanger Leak.jpg

    I don't know if you will be able to see this, but I drew an arrow to the pin hole leak (more likie pencil lead size leak) and a circle around one of the sheet metal screws, you can't see the one that poked a hole in it, but they are all down the side.

    Warning people I would make sure you don't have screws near your heat exchanger, I put a little 1X1 to keep mine away from the screws so I don't get any more holes.

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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Have you tried using any JB weld?
    http://www.jbweld.com/
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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobodaclown View Post
    Have you tried using any JB weld?
    http://www.jbweld.com/
    No I did not try that, now that is more up my alley I really think I should be able to fix this thing. I used something ilke this Pow-R Wrap, except I didnt see where it said only up to 1" pipes on the one I got at Home Depot but that could be a good reason for it not working.

    Maybe I will take that wrap off hopefully withouth putting another hole in the thing. I had a fiberglass cast I cut off my arms when younger (ahh the good old days) so I should be able to get it off.

    I was also thinking of trying to find a small piece of plastiv to jam in the hole first. I will try the JB weld if I can get this thing off.

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    Water activated fiberglass wrap
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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Ok so that fiberglass wrap seemed to stop the leak, maybe it didn't set well. NOW there is another hole, I tried getting in there with JBWeld, I got the hole and let it sit a day, no dice still leaking.

    Next I cut a piece of extra garden host, put jb weld on it, and had one of those circular pipe clamps and I just can't get my hands in there to get it tight.

    I think I am going to cut my losses here and start looking at a new one. If I fix this for yet another leak, I may wind up putting some holes in this heater myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    bummer.
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    Re: Leak in my heat exchanger!

    Yes sucks.

    So I am going to go with a new 5 Ton Hayward heat pump, has a great warranty and having it installed by a certified contractor, so I don't screw up my warranty. My neighbors have all Hayward and have had no issues with it, and I have heard some other good things about them too.

    Thanks everyone!!!

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