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    New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Hey all,

    We are in the progress of putting in a new pool after being in our house for 12 years now. The construction process is interesting, but a bit stressful. Feel free to follow along our time-lapse of the process:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNR...cy4PUPBrfhIYEg

    We'd love to hear suggestions...

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Welcome to TFP!

    We always love to see new projects and how people design their pools/backyards/oasis.

    This is the one place that can help you learn to "own" your pool and its water and in turn save a fortune on unneeded chemicals that pool stores love to sell.

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Wow. One guy, huh?

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Thanks for the welcome guys! Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the speed of the progress, but I guess having one guy does help with accountability (they are different subs and different guys, just generally one per job). This company has been doing pools for 39 years...so it's hard to argue the construction process with them. I am just hoping to be done by Christmas (the original goal was Halloween and has come and gone....). Question for you guys. The gunite still have a 7-foot 3-inch deep hole in the floor of the pool where rainwater washed it away. Is that "normal"? Or I guess a better question is...should I be concerned? I have pictures if that will help.

    Also, should I be concerned if the tile grout doesn't go all the way down to the shell?

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    No experience with Gunite, but I think it can just be filled in?

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Pictures always help. Welcome to TFP!
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Here are some pictures:



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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    As long as there isn't any rebar showing rust it should be able to just be filled in. If its rusted they will have to clean it first but then should be able to just fill it in.

    On another note, what music is that playing with your time lapse videos. It is very calming.
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    I'm by no means at all an expert on gunite, as I'm practically in the same boat as you. However, I'm very surprised at that hole in the gunite. I'm shocked that rain water could do that. If I can recall, our gunite was hardened up enough so you could walk on it within an hour I bet after it was shot. Was it raining when they shot it?

    That last picture looks like a hole they might have left on purpose for hydrostatic relief, but that long one I'm not sure about.

    I bet it's a fairly easy fix, but I would hope it wasn't an indication of improper gunite mix? Don't read too much into this, as I'm virtually clueless...just guessing.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    The strength of your shell is derived, in large part, from the steel matrix embedded in the gunite. All the holes and fissures can be fixed right before the plaster goes in. They will put in some quick-cure cement and then apply the plaster. While it doesn't look very appealing, you should have nothing to worry about. The final product will look and function perfectly.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Can't tell if it's a leaf or a piece of rebar in the groove at the top of that first picture.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    It depends on which video. All of it is royalty free. Which specific video are you referring to? I think I'm up to seven or eight of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glock View Post
    As long as there isn't any rebar showing rust it should be able to just be filled in. If its rusted they will have to clean it first but then should be able to just fill it in.

    On another note, what music is that playing with your time lapse videos. It is very calming.
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    Yes, it rained all night starting about an hour after the gunite was shot. They covered it with a tarp, but given the amount of rain, the tarp couldn't hold it. And you are right...they explained the large hole in the bottom is a "weep hole" give we have a high water level and they didn't want to risk the shell popping out. Fairly normal in FL I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twolabs View Post
    I'm by no means at all an expert on gunite, as I'm practically in the same boat as you. However, I'm very surprised at that hole in the gunite. I'm shocked that rain water could do that. If I can recall, our gunite was hardened up enough so you could walk on it within an hour I bet after it was shot. Was it raining when they shot it?

    That last picture looks like a hole they might have left on purpose for hydrostatic relief, but that long one I'm not sure about.

    I bet it's a fairly easy fix, but I would hope it wasn't an indication of improper gunite mix? Don't read too much into this, as I'm virtually clueless...just guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zethacat View Post
    Can't tell if it's a leaf or a piece of rebar in the groove at the top of that first picture.

    It's a leaf. I also have a poor dead frog in the bottom since it rained again last night and there is about a foot of water back in the pool. Gotta love FL weather! Thanks everyone for the reply. Talking through these things is helping mine and the Mrs. stress greatly!

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Is your pool builder going to warranty the gunite shell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ITR View Post
    It depends on which video. All of it is royalty free. Which specific video are you referring to? I think I'm up to seven or eight of them.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Quote Originally Posted by Glock View Post
    Tile day 1 & 2.
    Tile Day 1 is Accralate and Tile Day 2 is Canon in D Major (both by Kevin MacLeod). BTW, love the handle. G19 and G22 lover myself!

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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    A few updated videos...the latest one is: http://youtu.be/mXqBJyiq2iA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ITR View Post
    Tile Day 1 is Accralate and Tile Day 2 is Canon in D Major (both by Kevin MacLeod). BTW, love the handle. G19 and G22 lover myself!
    Thanks. I am a dealer so I let a few hang around in my safe when they come in. I'll list the models just incase the admins take down the image. From 12 o'clock going clockwise: Gen3 G22 RTF2, Gen3 G23, Gen4 G20, Gen3 G19, Gen4 G17, Gen4 G26, Gen3 G21, Gen4 G19.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ITR View Post
    A few updated videos...the latest one is: http://youtu.be/mXqBJyiq2iA
    Wow, the decking and coping are really nice. Love the time lapse videos.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Hey guys...I am back. They did the interior today. Is this blotchiness normal and will it even out with brushing as suggested in pool school?




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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Wow very nice! Is the pool not filling yet? Your PB may do an acid wash or startup.
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    Re: New to TFP - New construction in CFL by Artesian Pools

    Quote Originally Posted by zethacat View Post
    Wow very nice! Is the pool not filling yet? Your PB may do an acid wash or startup.
    Water starts filling tomorrow and goes through Thursday. PB's Pool School is a week from this Friday. I believe they do an acid wash and leave the brush for me to do daily.

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