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    New here and also a new pool

    We just finished our pool on July 4th, and about 2 weeks ago or so had the salt system activated. I have noticed recently that the plaster is starting to grow some algae. The salt rating is 3000 ppm right now, and is generating at around 65%. How can I get rid of this?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    I am not "totally" sure about SWG's but I believe you can add liquid chlorine bleach to raise the chlorine level up to shock levels to kill algae and brush the pool.

    I am not sure if the SWG needs turned down to do this or not but someone will be around shortly to help! If you could, post a full set of test results so we can offer you the best advice and go to User Control Panel and click on signature and add all your pool specs, gallonage and pump filter... whatever you have.

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Welcome to to TFP! I would suggest reading "Pool School " and posting some water test results and then we will be better able to help you.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Even know you have a SWG you still need to check your numbers daily FC/PH. What level is your CYA (stabilizer)? it should be at 80.

    You need to test your water NOW for FC and CYA (stabilizer) and then shock your pool using bleach in accordance with Chem Geeks CYA chart

    What kind of SWG do you have.
    How many Gallons


    We really need some more information to help you
    specificallly Test numbers

    If you shock you pool with bleach, I usually shut down my SWG
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Get a full set of water test results and shock the pool!
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Here are my test results:

    FC = 2.5
    CC = 2.5
    PH = 7.6
    TA = 300
    Salt Rating = 3000 PPM
    Producing Salt @ 63%


    I am updating my signature now.

    What is on my plaster is below:
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    15,000 Gallons, 16' x 24', 86' perimeter feet, 3'-6" - 6' deep, 7' raised spa

    Equipment:
    - Hayward 425 Filter (Model# C4025)
    - Hayward 2.0 HP Pump (Model# SP4015X20)
    - Hayward 400,000 BTU Heater - (Model# H400FDN)
    - Intermatic Timer
    - Turbocell T-Cell-15
    - Aquarite Electronic Chlorine Generator
    - Navigator Cleaner

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    You will need to shock your pool. Without a stabilizer reading(aka"CYA") I can't give you a level. You could raise your chlorine level to say 20ppm and hold it there until it holds overnight, but without a cya reading it would just be a guess.
    21' Leslies Beachland Ag Pool, 10,000 gallons, professionally installed (best money I ever spent) Hayward 16" sand filter w/Pentair two speed pump Fafco 4x20 solar heater,Aqua Trol RJ. Borates added. Hard plumbed.

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    It is supposed to rain the rest of the week, won't shocking the pool be better when it stops raining?

    How do you do a CYA reading, the test kit that I have only does the TA,CC,FC, and PH?
    15,000 Gallons, 16' x 24', 86' perimeter feet, 3'-6" - 6' deep, 7' raised spa

    Equipment:
    - Hayward 425 Filter (Model# C4025)
    - Hayward 2.0 HP Pump (Model# SP4015X20)
    - Hayward 400,000 BTU Heater - (Model# H400FDN)
    - Intermatic Timer
    - Turbocell T-Cell-15
    - Aquarite Electronic Chlorine Generator
    - Navigator Cleaner

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Just got my water tested professionally:

    FC - 3.0 ppm
    TC - 3.0 ppm
    CC - 0.0 ppm
    pH - 8.0
    Hardness - 105 ppm
    Alkalinity - 165 ppm
    Cyanuric Acid - 40 ppm


    The guy told me to switch it to the Superchlorinate and add a gallon of Muratic Acid.
    15,000 Gallons, 16' x 24', 86' perimeter feet, 3'-6" - 6' deep, 7' raised spa

    Equipment:
    - Hayward 425 Filter (Model# C4025)
    - Hayward 2.0 HP Pump (Model# SP4015X20)
    - Hayward 400,000 BTU Heater - (Model# H400FDN)
    - Intermatic Timer
    - Turbocell T-Cell-15
    - Aquarite Electronic Chlorine Generator
    - Navigator Cleaner

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Supercrew, I suggest you go ahead a get a good test kit like the [Edit:Correction on seller of TF100 Test Kit:Sold on TFP by duraleigh (Dave) of TFTestkits:Butterfly] TF 100 or at least the K 2005 from taylor, you need a test kit so you can test your water FC/CC/PH daily.

    Then read the pool school sticky it tells you everything you need to know

    category/pool-school/

    Then by going to Jasons calculator you'll know what to add

    http://www.poolcalculator.com/

    Heres a start

    You need to bring your CYA up to 60-80ppm add 80oz of stabilizer (Jasons cal)

    bring your TA down between 70-100 read the sticky on lowering you TA

    Add 97oz of Muratic acid to lower your PH to 7.0 then start areating (i.e.waterfall.)to bring the PH back up, when it reachs 7.6 lower the PH again down to 7.0 keep doing this until the TA is between 70-100

    if you have algae then shock your pool using bleach at least up to 20

    This should get you started

    Use Jasons calculator
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    According to Pool School, I need to get some Muratic Acid, Calcium Hardener, and stabilizer.
    15,000 Gallons, 16' x 24', 86' perimeter feet, 3'-6" - 6' deep, 7' raised spa

    Equipment:
    - Hayward 425 Filter (Model# C4025)
    - Hayward 2.0 HP Pump (Model# SP4015X20)
    - Hayward 400,000 BTU Heater - (Model# H400FDN)
    - Intermatic Timer
    - Turbocell T-Cell-15
    - Aquarite Electronic Chlorine Generator
    - Navigator Cleaner

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Ideally with your SWG you do want your CYA around 70 or 80. And yes I agree, get some Muratic Acid to lower the PH and begin to lower the TA.

    Also, I recommend you shock your pool with liquid chlorine, not your SWG, as that can shorten the life of the SWG Cell. Manually add liquid chlorine to raise your FC to shock level (use the Pool Calculator to figure out how much to add) and turn off the SWG while you shock. Use a good test kit to measure your FC levels.

    You want the K-2006 by Taylor NOT the K-2005. The K-2006 includes the FAS-DPD test which is essential for pool maintenance, the 2005 doesn't have it. But IMHO you get more for your money from the TF-100, it has more reagents and a great price, plus excellent customer service from Dave. Check out the article in pool school that compares the two kits.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    So whenever it stops raining here in Houston, I just need to pour some Clorox bleach into the pool and turn just the SWG off, or turn everything off?
    15,000 Gallons, 16' x 24', 86' perimeter feet, 3'-6" - 6' deep, 7' raised spa

    Equipment:
    - Hayward 425 Filter (Model# C4025)
    - Hayward 2.0 HP Pump (Model# SP4015X20)
    - Hayward 400,000 BTU Heater - (Model# H400FDN)
    - Intermatic Timer
    - Turbocell T-Cell-15
    - Aquarite Electronic Chlorine Generator
    - Navigator Cleaner

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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Quote Originally Posted by supercrewzin01
    So whenever it stops raining here in Houston, I just need to pour some Clorox bleach into the pool and turn just the SWG off, or turn everything off?
    Turn SWG off. Keep pump/filter ON. Add the amount of bleach (liquid chlorine) calculated to bring your FC to shock level based on your CYA.

    Also, I'd adjust the pH down to 7.5 or 7.6 first.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    IMO When its raining is a perfect time to adjust TA, the rain helps aerates and brings the PH up after you bring it down to 7.0

    If it was my pool and I "thought" I had algae, I would be out there in a snow storm adding bleach
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockcrawler
    Supercrew, I suggest you go ahead a get a good test kit like the [Edit: Seller of TF100 is duraleigh (Dave) of TFTestKits:Butterfly] TF 100 or at least the K 2005 from taylor, you need a test kit so you can test your water FC/CC/PH daily.
    I believe Rockcrawler meant to say "or at least the K-2006 from Taylor" since it is similar to the TF100, unless he was trying to save you cost. You can get the Taylor K-2006 at a good online price here and can get the TF100 from tftestkits.com here with the latter kit having 36% more volume of reagents so is comparably priced "per test". I have both test kits and you won't go wrong either way.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    Brush the pool also.
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    Re: New here and also a new pool

    I stand corrected, thanx Chem
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