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    Okay to move?

    We would like to move the pump and filter from here:



    To the side of the steps where no crawling would be required.



    We are planning on replacing the flexible hose with pvc. It's about 10 feet further and slightly downhill (maybe 4-5" elevation). Do you foresee any problems with our idea? We would be doing this next spring.
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    Re: Okay to move?

    No issues at all. Above grounds traditionally have over sized pumps so the extra head will not be a concern. I suggest using the same connections that are already on pump and filter and just splice in your new spa flex with some unions.

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    Re: Okay to move?

    As said above, no issues. But, I would go one step further and suggest upgrading the plumbing to hard PVC if you can. Or at least use flexible PVC and not any cheap corrugated hoses.

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    + 1 to the hard pipe. You'll see a big difference in flow as compared to the corrugated flex hose. 😎
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    Re: Okay to move?

    What's the major difference between spa flex and hard piping?

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    Re: Okay to move?

    Quote Originally Posted by pooladdict View Post
    What's the major difference between spa flex and hard piping?
    I think it might be our understanding of what "spa flex" is
    If it is actually the flexible schedule 40 PVC, then the performance would be very similar to hard plumbing. Although in this case, if it is going to be sitting on the ground, I might want to use hard pipe just for durability. You could still use the flex PVC for the riser to the pool and filter and just use hard for the horizontal runs.

    The cheap corrugated hoses (like used for pool cleaners and come with many of the AG pools) add a LOT of head loss and lower the flow rate. These are what we were not recommending to use.

    EDIT: I think there is also some concern with ants eating into the flexible PVC also.
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    The flex PVC is also pricey as compared to regular PVC IMO. 😎
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Is the performance difference in the pipe types because of the ridged surface of the corrugated pipes? Eddy currents causing a restriction of flow?
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Quote Originally Posted by n240sxguy View Post
    Is the performance difference in the pipe types because of the ridged surface of the corrugated pipes? Eddy currents causing a restriction of flow?
    Yes the flow is much more turbulent, and they may have a smaller ID as well.
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    The inside dia of the fitting for the hose is 1 inch where the hose gets attached and then tapers up to 1.5 inches. That will restrict flow there also. 😎
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Sorry, I use sched40 spa flex. Up north we have no issues with termites, but I attended a conference where the moderator had a piece of sched 40 spa flex that had more holes then pipe lol. Definitely do not use the vacuum type of hosing.

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    Re: Okay to move?

    Any suggestions on how to move the filter? I think it's 250# of sand.
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Use a shop vac to suck it out, then either reuse or replace.


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    Re: Okay to move?

    I use a shop vac, once full, dump it onto a tarp. Move the filter, then begin refilling. I prefer to put pea gravel in until I am even with the laterals, then I add the sand til I get to the shoulder of the filter. This gives you the largest surface area for the water to be forced down into the sand.

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    Re: Okay to move?

    When you look at the top picture,the black part (spider port?) needs to come off to access the interior of the filter. Do I remove it where there appears to be a "collar" just above the gray part to access the interior? Is there a step-by-step process outlined somewhere on this forum?
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Yes you pull the valve off at the collar.

    This may offer some info: Deep Cleaning your Sand Filter
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Rigid PVC is MUCH less expensive than flexible PVC. You will have more labor and "expertise" required to install it. It is also much more durable long term. The long run along the ground I would do rigid PVC for sure, perhaps even support the pipe off the ground with small pressure treated wooden blocks and metal straps.
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    Re: Okay to move?

    Thanks for your help. I am sure I will have more questions in the spring when we get started.
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