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    I guess I am a DUMMY

    ok folks here goes, I know everyone keeps telling me to go to the PoolMath, which I have done but just don't understand it. Duh Me! We are wanting to close the pool and TFP says bring the pool to shock level, well I would but not sure what shock level is. Can anyone possibly help me and not holler at me please.
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    What are your current test results (FC, CC, pH, CYA) I read that you have a K-2006 test kit. No hollering, but need to know those numbers to advise further.
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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    Here are the charts that tell you what the recommended levels are based on your CYA level. Keep in mind, they are based on using one of the recommended kits to test CYA, etc. have you read pool school yet?

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...art-slam-shock
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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    Relax Verna2197, most of us are too comatosed from relaxing by our crystal clear TFP pool to be able to holler and those that are not relaxing, are dreaming of next years pool season. It takes too much energy to make that much noise.

    What are your current test results (FC, CC, pH, CYA) I read that you have a K-2006 test kit. No hollering, but need to know those numbers to advise further.
    MarianParoo has the answer. We need test results.

    As far as being a dummy, naaaa.. just haven't learned yet.


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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    yes I have been to pool school, sorry to be trouble this is the first year of TFP

    FC 0.6
    CC just barely pink 0.2
    PH 7.2 added 2 drops R-006 brought it up to 7.5
    CYA 40
    TA 60
    CH 120
    19300 gal (27x54), AG, 22"Millenium Ultimate Granular Filtration w/2HP 2SP Pump,
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    Okay. So look at the chart here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...art-slam-shock
    You tell us what your shock FC level is. Let's see if you can understand the chart now.

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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    I am thinking 16, and it should stay this way for at least 2 days? So it's going to take quite a it of chlorine, right?
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    Yup, you've got it! Yes, you need to get FC up to 16ppm, and yes, it will use some bleach. Now you can go to PoolMath and plug in your numbers in the left columns. For goals of TA, CH, CYA, just use your current numbers. So CYA current is 40, CYA goal is 40.

    However, I wouldn't just get FC to 16 and then close. With your current FC being so low, I suggest you do an overnight chlorine loss test: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...loss-test-oclt.

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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    wow thought I posted a message awhile ago but not seeing it. Just want to thank everyone for their help. Another question do I put the same number in both boxes in Poolmath? Not to sure how to use that either. Sorry for not knowing but I figure the best way to find out is to ask.

    Actually I just figured out how to do the PoolMath. wow I can figure some things out.
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    I guess I am a DUMMY

    In the left now column, you enter your current numbers and in the right target column, you enter the target number you want. Then hit calculate.
    Enter your current FC then put in 16 as your target. Your CYA would be 40 in both columns as you don't want to change it.
    Don't forget to add your water volume at the top. Enter 8.25% bleach, jug size is 121oz. Set up the other fields near the bottom of the page. It's a good idea to play around with it so you get the hang of it. 😎
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    Thank you so much for all the help
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    July 2013, Polaris 65 Vac, Confer AG Curve Step System, Taylor K-2006 Test Kit, Nordic Sport Hot Tub 300 gal, 78.5"R X35"D

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    That was the goal, for you to figure it out. We could have told you, but now YOU know how!!!

    Still strongly recommend the OCLT above, though! You don't want to close without making sure you have nothing hiding in there. Since your FC got down to 0.6, you may have.

    BTW, use a 10ml sample when doing your FC and CC tests. Count drops like usual, but multiply by 0.5 instead of 0.2. You will save on reagents. Also, a half dipper of 0870 powder is usually enough.

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    Wow thank you for the info. I did start the oclt test this evening,
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    July 2013, Polaris 65 Vac, Confer AG Curve Step System, Taylor K-2006 Test Kit, Nordic Sport Hot Tub 300 gal, 78.5"R X35"D

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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    Did the oclt test and The FC is the same. Just put some bleach in pool storming here now so closing pool will have to wait
    19300 gal (27x54), AG, 22"Millenium Ultimate Granular Filtration w/2HP 2SP Pump,
    July 2013, Polaris 65 Vac, Confer AG Curve Step System, Taylor K-2006 Test Kit, Nordic Sport Hot Tub 300 gal, 78.5"R X35"D

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    Re: I guess I am a DUMMY

    So what was your FC and CC? Great that there was no loss overnight last night. Recommend 2 nights of no FC loss before OCLT is completed.

    Btw, do you plan on using polyquat before closing? If so, wait until after OCLT. Then add polyquat, and be aware that it will drop your FC. You will need to wait a day, test, and bring your TESTED FC back up to 16ppm before closing. If you don't understand that, let us know. If you're not using polyquat, no worries.

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