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    After months of research, I have finally started my pool. Ordered a 20 x 40 Mt Loch/Lagoon/Deer Creek from Poolwarehouse.com. So far everything seems decent quality. I was very nervous about buying from the internet. My only real issue with the order so far was with the shipper. Was supposed to have lift gate service and be able to use a pallet jack to get it up the drive way. At last minute they called said the skids were too big for lift gate and we had to unload by hand. Luckily I was able to get some last minute help to unload mid day on a Thursday which was a little tough. Getting the Poolwarehouse guys on the phone was a little harder than I would have liked at times, but they were nice when I did get them.

    I hired an excavator that came highly recommended, and this guy was like a surgeon with his backhoe. Unfortunately we did just clip some underground drainage lines but I knew that was a possibility and they should not be too bad to fix.









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    Re: DIY IG started in Cincinnati, OH

    Looks good wilsjay...from what I glean from the IG vinyl pools the dig can be the most important part.

    Pics, pics, pics...we love pics!
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    Nice start, looking forward to the progress.
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    Welcome to the forum.
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    @jjwalker you are dead on. Other than the plumbing repair for the drain line they clipped while digging I have had to do surprising little hand shoveling. The plumbing repair was more than enough though! I bought a spud bar at lowes and that was key for that job.
    So a friend stopped by later that same night the kit was delivered and the excavator finished and offered to help me set the panels down in the hole. So far that was the hardest part of the job manual labor wise, but 2 of us got them all in hole in about 45 minutes. The only pic I have is from the next night when I was doing the plumbing repair after work.
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    Todays progress









    Had 2 buddies help me set the walls, pull the plumbing, etc. I greatly underestimated how many screws would need to be shot on this project! I actually can't believe how fast it went together and took shape. The excavator made the job cake. Very little hand shoveling!

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    Finally got all of my plumbing ran, the steel steps bolted in, the lights (2), the skimmers (2) , the returns (5), the main drain, the overflow, a backwash line and the footer drain in place. Tomorrow hoping to have to footer poured. After that only 1 small piece of downspout drain line to repair then ready for back fill and electrical.





    One item to note: When buying PVC fittings, make sure you don't get the ones that say Drain or Not For Pressure. I did not see this marked anywhere on the fittings, but it is on the boxes/bins at home depot/lowes if you read closely. The 1-1/2inch PVC fittings for pressure are made by Lasco at Lowes. The lowes closest to my house is a small one and does not carry these, just the drain/not for pressure ones.

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    Tonight started working on electrical trench. Rented a walk behind trencher that digs a 6in x 24in trench. So far it is not going well. My soil is rock hard clay with no rocks at all and the machine is struggling and not getting the trench deep enough. Going to try another pass tomorrow and hoping for some better results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsjay View Post
    Tonight started working on electrical trench. Rented a walk behind trencher that digs a 6in x 24in trench. So far it is not going well. My soil is rock hard clay and the machine is struggling and not getting the trench deep enough. Going to try another pass tomorrow and hoping for some better results...
    We had a similar issue in central Illinois. We waited until the day after ewe got rain and trenched then. Was much easier. Could probably do the same with a sprinkler??


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    Thanks @bdex. I am not sure what piece of equipment I should have rented, but what I got was not the one for the job. I originally wanted to have the excavator do it, but he only had a 3 foot bucket on his back hoe. I got a buddy over this morning that helped me clean it out by hand and start pulling wire and running conduit. I have a couple of spots still to clean out but got it in for the most part.



    fyi- this is the machine I rented:


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    The one we rented had a fixed blade thing on the front but similar. Looks like you got the job done. Did you run 1.5" pipe?


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    1.25" conduit with (4) 2 awg insulated wires for a 100 amp sub panel. Put the wire in the conduit as I went. That part was not bad at all even on the 90 deg elbows. I was expecting much worse actually.

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    Nice. I went with 1.5" because the local big box store cannot get their **** together and stock all if the 1.25" pieces. L good though. I did a 50 amp sub panel with 4 #6 THHN and ran an extra 20a circuit in there.


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    Finally got all my electrical conduit run and wire pulled for the sub panel and lights. Also dug 2 post holes and set two 4x4 posts to mount my sub panel. I am hoping to finish up my bonding tomorrow and get my trench inspection Monday/Tuesday and then start back filling.

    I will admit the electrical materials are costing quite a bit more than I anticipated. I am over $230 just for three breakers and that is after shopping around! I had previously just priced the wire and sub panel (as I figured/guessed that is where all the money would be) both of which I thought were fairly reasonable but seems to be nickle and dime-ing me for all the other little pieces.

    Late addition to the mix the wife wants a slide now. I have to pull a line for the water supply for that and figure out exactly where to stub it up. The manufacture's instructions not the best to pinpoint this!

    I will be glad to be out of the mud/dirt and trenches here soon I hope!

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    Better now than after you pours concrete like at my house. Makes it easy to say no I guess??


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    @bdex - That sux. Hopefully you got it straightened out!

    Here are some pics of my bonding. I am planning on tying the wires I have stuck in the are with a piece of red duct tape to the rebar I will put into the concrete deck.





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    And finally backfilled









    Planning on starting the concrete decking area later this week. Doing cantilever coping. Glad to have gravel instead of mud! Thanks Mike.

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    After 2 SOLID weeks of rain (litterally every day) plus a week of drying out the yard and pumping out the deep end, finally poured the decking today.







    Tomorrow will be finish dressing out the concrete and removing forms (sub-contractor), and I will hopefully be hooking up the filter pad equipment. Hoping to get vermiculite on Monday and drop the liner on Tuesday.

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    The vermiculite floor went in today. Weather permitting liner goes in tomorrow. Here is are some before and after pics:

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    I am certain this will probably be of no interest to anyone else, but I am a bit OCD on the plumbing setup as I worked as a laborer for my uncle who is a plumber through high school and college. I am also certain there is an obscene amount of over kill in this setup as well. All plumbing is homerun in 1-1/2 PVC with a pentair never lube type shut off valve and a backwash line. I went with an over-sized sand filter, 1.5HP Hayward super pump, Hayward SWG, Hayward automatic chlorinator (came with the kit and installed as a backup if the salt cell fails), and a Hayward heat pump. My electrical setup I went with a 100 amp sub panel.



    Let me know if anyone has a good way to label all these valves, better than a sharpie.

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