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    Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    So, my pool is built and I was red tagged for not having proper fencing. The builder never informed me about this. I Figured my yard is fenced in and I have a electric gate on a timer. I even asked about it. They just said i don't know. Of course they know. Now my only option is to put up a big fence in the middle of my very small back yard. I honestly would rather tear the pool out and put the dirt back in than do that. I have a carport and driveway that separates from the pool. A huge fence would be beyond ugly. I can't just put up a temp fence and tear it down. They will want something that looks perm. I am kind of at a loss. I am beyond ****** right now. The building of this pool has been a terrible experience. Finally, it is all done and then I get this **** sprung on me. I would have never built this pool if I knew this.

    What are my options now? The dividing area is sundeck and the concrete driveway. There is about 30 foot of area that needs to be fenced. I want something that I can put up with as little damage as possible after I tear it down. I also don't want to spend a ton of money on this. I don't even feel I should have to spend a penny.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Talk to your insurance company. Your property will be uninsurable without a pool fence.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Most cities have ordinances related to pool enclosures as well. It is up to property owners to know these codes. It is very common for cities to require 6 foot high fence completely surrounding pool area or larger area with a locking gate.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    I don't understand why. My yard is completely fenced in. There is no way for anyone to get inside unless they run in behind my car. The gate is on a timer. I am really regretting building this pool.
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    Are you in the city of Houston? If so your builder had to show the fence with self closing gates on the plan he submitted to get a building permit. If he had it on the plans he submitted, ask him when he is going to install it.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    Talk to your insurance company. Your property will be uninsurable without a pool fence.
    I have never seen a pool fence in my entire life on any pool. I have been in plenty of them.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    If its red tagged, doesn't that mean the work isn't complete? Have you paid in full for the pool? Perhaps you have some leverage there.

    Though I have a hard time believing that you've "never seen a pool fence"....

    There are plenty of options...the last couple places I've lived, something fences like this company does are pretty common:
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Quote Originally Posted by Schumacher View Post
    I have never seen a pool fence in my entire life on any pool. I have been in plenty of them.
    That seems pretty close to impossible. Code requires them, and with pools being considered an "attractive nuisance", it would be financial suicide not to have one.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Quote Originally Posted by Schumacher View Post
    I have never seen a pool fence in my entire life on any pool. I have been in plenty of them.
    Give your homeowners insurance company a call and ask their requirements. When we purchased our current home they (the insurance company) had a private inspector come out and look at the pool and the fence/self closing gates.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnT View Post
    Talk to your insurance company. Your property will be uninsurable without a pool fence.
    Not true where I live. My insurance company is well aware of my setup.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Quote Originally Posted by smracing View Post
    Not true where I live. My insurance company is well aware of my setup.
    When code requires it and you don't have it, the liability is too high for an insurance company to mess with insuring you. As a matter of fact, if they insure you and you are sued, they may be able to avoid liability by showing that you were knowingly in violation of local rules. It would not be pretty.
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Pearland, TX required only a self closeing latch on my enclosed back yard fence and two small $10 alarms on my doors leading out to the pool area. PB should have provided you with all info on extra costs. Who is your PB? did you go with Premier?
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Can you post some pictures?
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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Sec. 43-6. Facilities: minimum standards.
    (a)
    Except as provided in subsection (b), the City adopts minimum standards for facilities that are identical to those pool safety standards contained in the following state and federal laws, all of which are incorporated herein:
    (1)
    The VGBA;
    (2)
    Chapter 757 of the Texas Health and Safety Code; and
    (3)
    Subchapters L and M of Chapter 265 of Title 25 of the Texas Administrative Code.
    (b)
    The provisions of Section 265.208 of Title 25 of the Texas Administrative Code shall not apply to enforcement of this chapter.
    (c)
    The operator of a facility shall maintain the facility in accordance with the pool safety standards adopted by the City pursuant to subsection (a).

    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u...pdf/HS.757.pdf

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    Re: Pool fence requirements the builder never told me about

    Bridging 30 Ft should be fairly easy, you are looking at 4 8 ft sections of prebuilt fencing and 3 to 5 posts depending on if the ends could be mounted to the structure of the house. In that length you could probably even get a nice black aluminum fence installed for under $500 plus labor, but like others have said photos would really help us understand your situation better.
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