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    Signing today!

    We have an appointment to sign a contract today, as long as everything meshes. Any opinions on this quote?

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    Basic Pool

    (80 perimeter/2 skimmers/1 light/Aquron Gunite sealant) 1 26,000.00 $26,000.00
    Pool Perimeter Foot Over 80' 12 180.00 $2,160.00
    Gunite material surcharge over 450 area foot 78 15.00 $1,170.00
    Coping LN/FT Flagstone 92 28.00 $2,576.00
    Benches in Pool over 5' per foot 7 35.00 $245.00
    Sunledge SQ/FT 57 15.00 $855.00
    Raised Bond Beam in pool per sq ft - 4"x8" block Stacked stone 28 46.00 $1,288.00
    Bobcat double handle dig 1 500.00 $500.00
    Paramount Floor cleaning system per head 21 170.00 $3,570.00

    Decking

    Sundek over concrete 513 9.75 $5,001.75
    Concrete pump 1 595.00 $595.00
    Turn Down Decking SQ/FT - Browncoated 30 10.00 $300.00
    Cover Existing patio per ft Sundek 300 4.50 $1,350.00

    Water Features

    Waterfall 3' 3,400.00
    Bubbler/fountain 3 $350.0 $1,050.00
    Water Sheer or Scupper up to 3' with 30' run 1 450.00 $450.00

    Equipment


    Suntouch control system with remote 1 600.00 $600.00
    Pentair VS Energy Pump 3hp - Upgrade 1 650.00 $650.00
    Water Feature electrical actuator 1 150.00 $150.00
    Extra Light 1 400.00 $400.00
    Ozonator- Clear O3 1 1,400.00 $1,400.00

    Plaster

    Wet Edge Pebble coating light to medium shades per Area foot 954af 4.25 $4,054.50

    Subtotal
    $54,365.25
    Total
    $54,365.25


    I think we have decided to eliminate the infloor for upfront and monthly cost reasons...mama wants to be a stay at home mom and we're trying to cut all future costs as much as possible.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Signing today!

    Looks great! Excited to watch it start.

    I am still a newbie here and haven't even broken ground on ours yet, but I'll chime in with what I bet will be coming anyway.

    Good call on eliminating the infloor system. From what I've read, most people on here have had a hard time with them. There have been some others with no problems to report, but I've gathered the overall consensus is they tend to have problems with them.

    I'd ditch the Ozonator.

    Also consider upgrading the lights to LED.

    Thats the extent of my knowledge on it. Good luck and make sure and post a lot of progress pictures.

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    Re: Signing today!

    Thanks for the input Twolabs!

    So, why ditch the Ozonator?

    The LED lights are a bit more expensive. Is there a big reason to upgrade to them if we don't want the color-changing option?

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    Re: Signing today!

    You might want to blank out your name and address, if possible.....

    Like the design!
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    Re: Signing today!

    I would do a search on this forum for Ozonator, but here is a good post from chem geek regarding it:

    As described in Chemistries of Ozone for Municipal Pool and Spa Water Treatment and as originally described in the scientific peer-reviewed paper Kinetics and products of the Reactions of Ozone with Various forms of Chlorine and Bromine in Water, ozone reacts with hypochlorite ion to produce 77% chloride ion and 23% chlorate ion.

    Because of this, ozone doesn't make very much sense for use in residential pools because the bather load is low so the ozone ends up mostly just being another source of chlorine demand. Turnover times are too long for ozone to have much of an effect on the small amount of bather waste. Also, for outdoor residential pools, the breakdown of chlorine from the UV in sunlight produces hydroxyl radicals that help to oxidize some bather waste so supplemental oxidation isn't usually needed. Ozone makes much more sense in high bather load situations such as in commercial/public high-use pools and spas as well as in residential spas used every day or two. It might make some sense for indoor residential pools, though usually UV is used in that situation.

    In fact, we see this ozone/chlorine vs. ozone/bather waste effect in residential spas where spas with ozonators that are used every day or two use roughly half as much chlorine as spas without ozonators under the same every day or two usage. However, spas used infrequently, only one a week or so, have roughly twice the chlorine demand (daily chlorine loss) with ozonators compared to spas without ozonators. Obviously, the amounts vary depending on the strength of the ozonator, the precise bather load, and the size of spa, but the principle remains the same.

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    Re: Signing today!

    Ozonators are primarily for indoor pools/spas or commercial pools. The primary benefit they provide is to break down CC species in the pool. Outdoor pools get plenty of sunshine. UV light breaks down combined chlorines. It's $1400 wasted on an outdoor residential pools. Ozone can also deplete some free chlorine, the useful stuff. If you want to spend money on more automatic sanitation, go with a salt water chlorine generator. There are concerns with that as well, but if your decking materials are not flagstone or soft limestone, a SWCG is the way to go.

    Love the design. Good luck!
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    Re: Signing today!

    Okay, I'll research the ozonator. Thanks everyone!

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    Re: Signing today!

    We are actually working on a bid with the same builder. I will definitely keep an eye on your posts to see how the build goes. Please post pictures!

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    Re: Signing today!

    Holmern, we have found him easy to work with so far. Fingers crossed it stays that way! We have 2 sets of friends who have used him and are happy.

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    Re: Signing today!

    Yeah we have 5 neighbours that are all thrilled with his work so we feel good about possibly working with him as well.
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