Become a TFP Supporter Pool Math Forum Rules Pool School
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

  1. Back To Top    #1

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    I have an Intex Ultra Frame 22ft AGP, I bought an automatic pool vacuum, the Zodiac Barracuda Ranger to be exact. This is my first year owning a pool so I'm learning the hard way about pool maintenance and equipment.

    Has anyone used this pool cleaner with this pool? I am getting air running through the system even though I have submerged all the hoses and bled the system.

    If I have the wrong pump I would like to know as well and any recommendations. The vacuum didn't come with a connector to the intex skimmer so I may fear I purchased the wrong vacuum, I was holding it to the coupling by hand trying to see if it would work.

    Manufacture says works with ALL AGP and Vinyl Pools, but not Intex soft sided pools. I took that to mean the Easy-Set and not Ultra Frame bc I read reviews of people with Ultra Frame pools using it, but maybe I was wrong.

    Any advice or help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Travis

  2. Back To Top    #2
    Mod Squad zea3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    9,200

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Can you post a picture or video of how you have it connected to the pump? It will help us to troubleshoot your problem.
    TFP Moderator
    Helpful links: TF Test Kits,TFP Pool School, PoolMath
    Vogue 21' round AG, Pentair 1 hp 2 speed pump, 36 sq ft DE filter, Hayward S180T 150# sand filter, Houston, Texas
    Love TFP? Become a
    TFP Supporter!

  3. Back To Top    #3

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Yes I will, I need to do a little work before I get around to the pool. Thank you for your response

  4. Back To Top    #4
    strutaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    LA (Lower Arkansas)
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    I have this cleaner. It is the best of the three I have had over the years. We have a short piece of tubing slightly smaller than the intex blue connector pushed in the connector. It allows us to hook the cleaner right up. I do have a 1 hp pump/sand filter. The other cleaners were iffy at best with the tiny pumps that came with the pools. I used the same combo with an easy set I had for 8 years. I got my money's worth out of that pool lol.

    Just read over your post again. I fill my hose with water at the return before connecting it. Air burbles out in a rush and the ranger floats to the top then back down. I keep the end of the hose under water until attached. We also had to stop up the hole at the valve. Little caps were supposed to come with the pool for that purpose. We couldn't find them so stopped up the hole with a piece of garbage bag.
    18ft. Ultra Frame Pool. 1hp Advantage pump. 18 inch sand filter. Skimmer from previous Easy Set suspended over pool. Barracuda Ranger cleaner, new Hayward Leaf canister which is the best purchase I have made. Lots of dust here from gravel roads plus tree stuff.

  5. Back To Top    #5

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    0824141149.jpg

    Here is the intex skimmer cap, attached to the Ranger Pool Vacuum skimmer attachment, to the flowmeter thing, attached to hose attachment.

    I used this setup today, I don't think the skimmer attachment will stay in the skimmer cap, only when suction is on.

    The problem I am having is that after a minute air starts coming out of the return and my intex cartridge filter pump fills with air.

    I am beginning to think this was not made for the pool even though others say they have used this pump on ultra frame pool.

  6. Back To Top    #6

    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Oakbank, Canada
    Posts
    383

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Issue with that is your not getting all the air out of the hose before hooking it up to vacuum. You need to put the entire hose and vacuum into the water, and submerge it, getting all the air out. If there is air in the hose, it will give the pump an airlock.
    Ultra 16', Intex Sand filter/pump combo, 8' x 20' solar panels, solar blanket w/roll tube, 1" extruded foam floor with Gorilla pad, Liquid chlorine and stabilizer.

  7. Back To Top    #7

    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Posts
    678

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    With the pump running, I connect the vacuum head and drop it into the pool. Then, I take the other end of the hose and hold it to the return until the head pops to the surface with water shooting outet. Prior to learning this method on this forum, getting the air out the first time was hit or miss. This method NEVER fails.
    Sharkline Reprieve 15x52 (3/14). Still using Intex 2650 Sand Filter with Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 3/4 HP pump (6/15). Solar Cover cut into strips for easy removal, (2) 2*10 Space Saver solar panels. Swim Jet HD Robot (by Aquabot) (3/15). Chlorine Liquidator (4 gal). 4 person hot tub. Hard pipe is the way to go for improved flow! Retired Lil Shark (3/15). Starite Max E Therm 333k BTU Propane Heater w/ 24 gal tank (7/15).

  8. Back To Top    #8
    strutaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    LA (Lower Arkansas)
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    My fix. 2inch piece of plastic tubing from the farm supply store. Take the blue part with you. It is a tight fit.




    The way it looks connected.

    Small piece of garbage bag to plug the hole so it wouldn't suck air. Remember to fill the hose with the return.
    18ft. Ultra Frame Pool. 1hp Advantage pump. 18 inch sand filter. Skimmer from previous Easy Set suspended over pool. Barracuda Ranger cleaner, new Hayward Leaf canister which is the best purchase I have made. Lots of dust here from gravel roads plus tree stuff.

  9. Back To Top    #9

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Thanks for the reply guys. I'll have to give all these methods a shot. I thought I was getting all the air out by putting each tube into the water vertically then connecting it.

    As for the garbage bag solution, if I am not hearing air or a hiss, would I still assume air is entering through that part of the system?

    Thanks

    Travis

  10. Back To Top    #10
    strutaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    LA (Lower Arkansas)
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    If you are getting air, put your finger over that hole. If everything works with your finger there and gets air when it is off, plug the hole. Lots of little weird things to do huh? Hope this helps. I love my ranger. It is out there cleaning now while I am in my chair.
    18ft. Ultra Frame Pool. 1hp Advantage pump. 18 inch sand filter. Skimmer from previous Easy Set suspended over pool. Barracuda Ranger cleaner, new Hayward Leaf canister which is the best purchase I have made. Lots of dust here from gravel roads plus tree stuff.

  11. Back To Top    #11

    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Casa Grande, AZ
    Posts
    9

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    I was getting some air into the system from the relief valves where you put the garbage bag. I plugged them both with silicone glue and that issue will never be back as a result of those valves.


    Carl in Arizona
    Intex AG, 18x9x52", Krystal Clear Sand Filter Pump Model SF10110 1050 gal/hr max pressure 35 psi

  12. Back To Top    #12
    strutaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    LA (Lower Arkansas)
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    So, is Mr. Barracuda Ranger doing his job?
    18ft. Ultra Frame Pool. 1hp Advantage pump. 18 inch sand filter. Skimmer from previous Easy Set suspended over pool. Barracuda Ranger cleaner, new Hayward Leaf canister which is the best purchase I have made. Lots of dust here from gravel roads plus tree stuff.

  13. Back To Top    #13

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    I haven't had time to put it back in, I am trying to get the pool to a point where I can vacuum it. I am cleaning up an algae bloom that has been stubborn and work has been busy.

  14. Back To Top    #14

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    San Jacinto CA
    Posts
    14

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Update, I think I have got the Ranger working. It seems to take a pretty consistent pattern around the pool though not sure if it's going to give me the clean pool I am looking for, but my intex pump gets a little bit of air in the system and I want to know if this is normal?

  15. Back To Top    #15
    strutaway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    LA (Lower Arkansas)
    Posts
    28

    Re: Pool Vacuum and Pump Problem

    Shouldn't have any air. Sometimes my leaf canister causes air. I hear it but the lid and hose seem to be on tight. It goes away.. I have improved the pattern by taking out a length so hose or turning the hose where it plugs in. Never perfect, but close most of the time. I have to hand guide it from the side or get in with it to get the elusive spots. I usually take it out in the morning before I get ready.for work so guide it from the side.
    18ft. Ultra Frame Pool. 1hp Advantage pump. 18 inch sand filter. Skimmer from previous Easy Set suspended over pool. Barracuda Ranger cleaner, new Hayward Leaf canister which is the best purchase I have made. Lots of dust here from gravel roads plus tree stuff.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •