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    Help! Crazy pool install!

    Hi all! I need help! We had a 27' 52" Aqua leader installed about 2.5 weeks ago and we have been going crazy trying to figure out what/how to back fill this massive cavern that has been dug to install the pool! We knew some dirt needed moved but by the time we go home and the installer was gone, and there was a trench around most of the pool that is as high as almost 3 feet and only a foot or so from the pool itself! no room for a wall and we are only supposed to back fill up to 18" at most! We called the installer to ask why it was buried so deep and he never returned our calls and the company we bought it from just says IDK ask the installer!!!! We do not know what to do and we are afraid of damaging the pool!

    Some key info about the pools location; located in midwestern MO. down side of house where there is runoff from gutters soil is 1ft black dirt with lots of clay, not much rock though.

    any help would be awesome!!!

    TYIA!!!!

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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

    Can you post a picture of it ?
    I would keep calling the installer to see what you can get out of him. 😎
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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

    I have no clue, sorry but wanted to welcome you to the forum and someone should be along shortly to help you with your question.

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    Pictures pictures pictures

    Don't pay the installer until you are happy.
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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

    As soon as I'm on a computer I will! I have the pictures on my phone and it won't let me do it from here.

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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

    unfortunately, my mother was here with a check and paid them when they were done so they have all the money now. we have a drain tube and we have begun to back fill due to the rain that is headed this way.
    27' 52" 17000 gal sand dollar filter with 1.5 hp pump. (overkill) supposed to be above ground but looking more and more like some in-ground high bred

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    27' 52" 17000 gal sand dollar filter with 1.5 hp pump. (overkill) supposed to be above ground but looking more and more like some in-ground high bred

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    Depending on how far from the house you all agreed it would be, they prolly went that deep to be able to level to solid ground at the lowest point. I think you should talk to a landscaper or excavator to determine how much of the embankment between the foundation of the house and the high side of the pool can be taken off and used on the low side and to alleviate the risk of runoff ending up in your pool.
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    Yeah, they went that deep to provide a level base, but they should have given you more space to have put a retaining wall around the backside of the pool. Not much choice but to dig the backside larger and put a retaining wall up.
    Digging that deep, they had no choice, but making it large enough for the wall, they should have for sure.
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    Re: Help! Crazy pool install!

    I agree with others in that they should have given you more space around the pool. In my township by code if you have a bank like that you have to have at least 36" from the base of the pool to the bank.
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    Wow, it is hard to believe that the pool installers would leave that small an amount of clearance. It wouldn't of taken much effort ,with heavy equipment, to give you more clearance. Was there a lack of communication?

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    I'm not really sure what went wrong. All I know is now the guy won't call back. He seemed very easy to get along with at 430 am when he got here but when we got home at 5 that night this is what was left. We bought this pool thinking we would not have all the labor left at the end. Boy how wrong we were. I'm going to call some local landscapers and see if they can do anything with this because we are at a loss. I will never recommend this company to anyone. The guy had a bobcat and made very short work of the dirt work but I would have thought there would have been a phone call saying "hey, this was a really deep dig" but no. I understand he had to get to level. This is just very frustrating. We could have had an inground put in for what we paid for the above ground and all the extra work that has yet to be done

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    Oh, he did leave a hand drawn picture of where to put the fill dirt though.
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    Wow... They certainly left you in a predicament. If I recall correctly the slope on grade is to be no more than 3:1. I think your best option is to excavate 3-4' wider than the pool and do a retaining wall. Then build a deck on that side of the pool. That would get your pump and filter out of the way as well. Hope all goes well.
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    WE had similar situation, but not quite as much of a drop, probably 1- 1.5ft. We also had to dig back and install retaining wall. We did it by hand. Took a bit of work, but we had the dirt dug out and wall installed in 6 hours with 4 people (and 3 trips to Home Depot)
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    Hoping to build a deck over wall in the future...
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    That looks very nice! So, the rain came last night...it was not good. I will post photos soon
    27' 52" 17000 gal sand dollar filter with 1.5 hp pump. (overkill) supposed to be above ground but looking more and more like some in-ground high bred

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    27' 52" 17000 gal sand dollar filter with 1.5 hp pump. (overkill) supposed to be above ground but looking more and more like some in-ground high bred

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    In case you don't know, that dirt piled around your tree will kill it. If it was my tree, I would move that dirt ASAP. There are numerous articles on the net that explain this.
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    I know, unfortunately, I only have two shovels and two backs to move it. We are using it around the property, there is just so much
    27' 52" 17000 gal sand dollar filter with 1.5 hp pump. (overkill) supposed to be above ground but looking more and more like some in-ground high bred

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    rueckert, besides the slope issues you were having, how do you like the Aqua Leader pool? I am looking at going with a 24' Influence come spring time. Just looking for feedback on the fit and finish of it.

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