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    2 Pointer

    Hi I'm in Arizona
    We had a big monsoon roll through last night
    Rained some...
    threw the chem way off.

    FC .5
    pH 6.8
    CYA 35-40
    TA 130

    calculator is telling me 37 boxes of borax?!?!?!
    REally?
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Welcome to the forum. Using your gallons, I only got 228 ounces of Borax to raise PH from 6.8 to 7.4..............
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    What test kit are you using? TA 1300? That's a lot of drops.

    Plus 6.8 is the lowest the test will register, it may be lower. What do you use to chlorinate?

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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by tim5055 View Post
    What test kit are you using? TA 1300? That's a lot of drops.
    whoops

    sorry

    too much coffee

    130
    started arateing
    and was going to add baking soda to get the pH up a tad
    I am using trichlor was going to add a tad of liquid chlorine about 1 qt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyp View Post
    Welcome to the forum. Using your gallons, I only got 228 ounces of Borax to raise PH from 6.8 to 7.4..............
    thank you for the welcome
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Baking soda raises TA-----NOT.....PH.
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by swimmerdude View Post
    whoops

    sorry

    too much coffee

    130
    started arateing
    and was going to add baking soda to get the pH up a tad
    I am using trichlor was going to add a tad of liquid chlorine about 1 qt.

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    thank you for the welcome
    you want washing soda or borax as woodyp said, not baking soda.

    The trichlor is acidic and keeps pushing pH down as it adds chlorine and CYA. You are already getting up,there with CYA in a non-SWG pool so you really need to stop with solid chlorine products.

    Are you using your own test kit or pool store numbers?
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by tim5055 View Post
    you want washing soda or borax as woodyp said, not baking soda.

    The trichlor is acidic and keeps pushing pH down as it adds chlorine and CYA. You are already getting up,there with CYA in a non-SWG pool so you really need to stop with solid chlorine products.

    Are you using your own test kit or pool store numbers?
    My own test kit.

    So I should just use liquid chlorine and borax?
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Yes, use liquid chlorine. Don't switch to cal-hypo. You didn't post a CH but being in Arizona I'm sure your calcium is already high enough. Use borax to raise the pH. Add about 1/2 what you think you need and re-test after circulating about 30 minutes. As they said earlier your pH may actually be much lower than you think.
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by swimmerdude View Post
    My own test kit.

    So I should just use liquid chlorine and borax?
    Great! I love folks who arm themselves with the correct tools and don't rely on pool store testing.

    Yes as to liquid chlorine and borax. Nothing a trip to WalMart can't fix. Use the Pool Math link at the top,of the page to figure out amounts. In your spare time start reading in the Pool School.
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    CH is 300

    Awesome you guy are good. Very good.

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    I have started reading Pool School.

    With this size pool, 21,000 gal, does the calculator figure for baseline reading then calculate?
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    The calculator has two columns, one for current test results and one for your target result. Play around with it and you will see how it works. PoolMath
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Quote Originally Posted by tim5055 View Post
    Great! I love folks who arm themselves with the correct tools and don't rely on pool store testing.

    Yes as to liquid chlorine and borax. Nothing a trip to WalMart can't fix. Use the Pool Math link at the top,of the page to figure out amounts. In your spare time start reading in the Pool School.
    Nope! I have not had great results with "GURUs" at the pool store out here in AZ. One would think with the most pool per capita, right?
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    Re: 2 Pointer

    Keep in mind most pool store employees are minimum wage workers who don't own pools and who's training comes mostly from chemical sales reps. This is especially true for mega chains like Leslie's.
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