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    My First Tests

    The pool guy comes today, once more next Wednesday, and then after that visit I will call and cancel the service...

    Here is what I got last night:
    Cl = 7?
    Br = 12?
    pH = 7.5
    FC 26 X 0.5 = 13
    TC 2 x 0.5 =1
    CH 22 x 25 = 550
    TA 13 x 10 = 130
    CYA = 89

    First test so the accuracy is probably a little off on a couple.
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    Re: My First Tests

    Should I stop using the pucks once I take over responsibilities? Actually when I go home today should I remove the floater and keep them out of the pool already?
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    Re: My First Tests

    My comments in red:

    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy1271 View Post
    The pool guy comes today, once more next Wednesday, and then after that visit I will call and cancel the service...

    Here is what I got last night:
    Cl = 7?
    Br = 12? Ignore Br. You have a chlorine pool.
    pH = 7.5
    FC 26 X 0.5 = 13
    TC 2 x 0.5 =1 I think you mean CC, right?
    CH 22 x 25 = 550 That's high. What is the CH of your fill water?
    TA 13 x 10 = 130
    CYA = 89 You should do another test for CYA, probably tomorrow with the sun behind you. Also, doing the CYA dilution test will be most helpful to determine how close you are to 100.
    Here's a link to the Extended Test Kit Directions(scroll down for each test ) : http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...Kit-Directions


    First test so the accuracy is probably a little off on a couple.
    Is your fill water from a well or municipal water?

    Yes, stop using the tabs/pucks! You are more than likely going to need to do a drain/refill dance to lower the CYA and CH, but first let's wait for confirmation with your next test results.

    Testing will get easier as you go. There is a YouTube video that shows testing....link in my sig.

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    Re: My First Tests

    Yes you should remove them. Your CYA is already way too high and you likely need about a 50% water change as the first step to taking control.

    What is with the weird CYA number? Usually they are in increments of 10ppm.
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    Re: My First Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    My comments in red:


    Is your fill water from a well or municipal water?

    Yes, stop using the tabs/pucks! You are more than likely going to need to do a drain/refill dance to lower the CYA and CH, but first let's wait for confirmation with your next test results.

    Testing will get easier as you go. There is a YouTube video that shows testing....link in my sig.

    Congrats on getting your kit
    Thanks for the info! The thought of removing water and putting water back in is very scary in SoCal. They want to start charging us $500 A DAY for using more than our already tiny allotment...

    TC 2 x 0.5 =1 I think you mean CC, right?
    > I thought I was measuring Total Chlorine but I will double check when I run the tests again tonight.
    CH 22 x 25 = 550 That's high. What is the CH of your fill water?
    > I don't know. Its municipal water; should test that tonight too?

    I have the SpeedStir Magnetic Stirrer and used it for these test last night... that is the correct thing to do? Very noobish here

    I'll check out the Extended Directions and the YouTube video tonight also.

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    Yes you should remove them. Your CYA is already way too high and you likely need about a 50% water change as the first step to taking control.

    What is with the weird CYA number? Usually they are in increments of 10ppm.
    CYA is probably weird because its my first test and apparently I didn't do something right. I'll try again tonight!
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    Re: My First Tests

    The CYA test is the most subjective. Usually good to pour the sample back and forth a few times and just kind of average the reading to the nearest 10ppm.
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    Re: My First Tests

    The 550 CH is quite believable.

    And I agree -- lose the pucks. Any you have left over will keep for years if kept dry. If the pool is clear, you might luck out and be able to eliminate the CC by just maintaining adequate FC for your CYA level. I did it my first year, with CYA moire than double that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    The 550 CH is quite believable.

    And I agree -- lose the pucks. Any you have left over will keep for years if kept dry. If the pool is clear, you might luck out and be able to eliminate the CC by just maintaining adequate FC for your CYA level. I did it my first year, with CYA moire than double that.
    Pucks are gone! In fact the pool guy added 2 new ones today...

    6:15 start time
    Cl = off the chart, but makes sense if it was already high and he added more pucks...?
    pH = back up to 8.2
    FC = 20.5 do I round up on this?
    CC = no CCs, didn't change color
    CH = 625
    TA = 120
    CYA = 100

    Water Fill:
    I did my best to get just "fresh" water; however, the pool water line is almost completely covering the hole
    CH = I "double dropped" so either 175 or 200
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    When FC is above 10, just ignore the pH reading. It will read falsely high. Proof is in the pictures:
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...els-with-R-007
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    Re: My First Tests

    I'm thinking that I should cancel my pool service today. Why have them come out one more time to clean, which I'm already doing everyday, and to add too many chemicals? I'll lose out on a few dollars but it seems like it will save me more in the long run... thoughts?
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    Sounds like a good idea to me ... Ask yourself, what would you gain by having them come again?
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    Re: My First Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Sounds like a good idea to me ... Ask yourself, what would you gain by having them come again?
    More work and more hassle; two things I don't need more of
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    Re: My First Tests

    I've called, canceled my service, and told them they don't need to come back next Wednesday. What's my next step?
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    Re: My First Tests

    Ideally ... replace half your water to lower the CYA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    Ideally ... replace half your water to lower the CYA.
    I think fatboy better change his profile so people know that the San Fernando Valley is in California.
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    Re: My First Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard320 View Post
    I think fatboy better change his profile so people know that the San Fernando Valley is in California.
    Thanks Richard... done!
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    Re: My First Tests

    I said "ideally"

    Ignoring that ... you need the FC to drop low enough to test and adjust the pH and then to keep the FC up around 10ppm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    I said "ideally"

    Ignoring that ... you need the FC to drop low enough to test and adjust the pH and then to keep the FC up around 10ppm.
    I see from the Basic Pool Chemistry that sodium thiosulfate can be used to lower FC. Is there a particular brand I should look for?
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    Re: My First Tests

    What is the hurry? The sun will have it dropped in a few days.
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    Re: My First Tests

    Update

    7/30:
    CL = 5
    pH = 7.5
    FC = 9 x 0.5 = 4.5
    CC = No CCs, did not turn pink
    CH = 26 x 25 = 650
    TA = 12 x 10 = 120
    CYA = 80

    Previous results on 7/22:
    Cl = off the chart
    pH = 8.2
    FC = 20.5
    CC = no CCs, didn't change color
    CH = 625
    TA = 120
    CYA = 100
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