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    Updated test results...08.08.14

    Just filled the pool and my first PH results was between 7.8-8.2 and my TA level was at 240-250 :/

    Any advice on what to do next?
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Add muratic acid. It will push down both the pH and TA.

    If you haven't done so, get some chlorine and stabilizer in the pool.

    Use the pool math link above to figure out how much of what you need.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    What he said^^^

    To be more specific.... 1 qt of 31.45% Muriatic acid dribbled in front of the return stream will fix the pH for a few days. It will climb again within a day or two due to the high TA.

    Next, you want to pour a whole 4 lb canister of stabilizer into a sock and tie it off and set it in the skimmer or dangle it in front of the return stream. That will bring your CYA level to just about 50. So don't be adding any pucks or powdered chlorine, or it will overdo the CYA. Don't bother testing it for a week.

    By the time that's done, you've probably waited long enough after the acid to add some bleach. A quart and a splash of 8.25% Clorox or equivalent will get your FC up to 3, which is about as high as you want for now, since there will be no CYA in the water yet. As CYA dissolves, you'll need to target a little higher. From 3 now to about 7 when it's all dissolved, so just guesstimate based on how much is left in the sock. You will need to feed the pool some bleach every day.

    How I came up with these numbers is poolmath. A good writeup on how to use it is here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...ool-calculator

    More explanations on how to chlorinate, what other chemicals you need, and how to add them are here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...pool-chemistry

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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Thanks, i'll do both tomorrow and then wait a week to test again. I used the pool calculator and came up with the same amount of MA but wanted to make sure i was doing everything correctly. Thanks again.

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    Do i do the sock thing as soon as i get finished with the MA? Or do i need to wait a day or two?
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    You can add the CYA as soon as you put the muriatic acid jug down.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWebb223 View Post
    Do i do the sock thing as soon as i get finished with the MA? Or do i need to wait a day or two?
    Nope. You can do it at the same time almost. Put in the MA and let your pump circulate it around while you're preparing the sock full of CYA. Then toss that in and you're done with those. I like to hang my CYA sock in the middle of two small section of pool noodle joined to make an "x", using big fat broccoli rubberbands. That way I can squeeze it easily to speed its dissolving and it doesn't get stuck against the wall or pulled into the weir.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Thanks for the help guys! So glad I found this website.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWebb223 View Post
    Thanks for the help guys! So glad I found this website.
    We are glad you are here. Just remember, if you stop by the pool store (I still do occasionally) and tell them how you are maintaining your pool they are going to look at you like you have three heads. Then they are going to explain how you are going to ruin your pool and equipment. Mainly they are just mad because you won't be dropping huge sums of money with them....
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    My girlfriend is worried about using the bleach and MA as she says she has sensitive skin. I told her that the amounts being used isnt going to do any harm with the amount of water thats in the pool. Any one else have to explain that to someone else?
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWebb223 View Post
    My girlfriend is worried about using the bleach and MA as she says she has sensitive skin. I told her that the amounts being used isnt going to do any harm with the amount of water that's in the pool. Any one else have to explain that to someone else?
    Regularly. But just explain chlorine is chlorine. It doesn't matter where it comes from - bleach - pool store jug - Salt Water Chlorine Generator (this one gets lots of folks who don't know what a "salt water pool" really is).
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Just about everyone that has been in my pool. LOL "what do you mean you ONLY use bleach to keep your pool clean? Why can't I smell it? It did not hurt my eyes so you much be wrong." LOL Of course this is after they ask how I keep my pool so sparkly.

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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Do i need to wait a certain amount of time before getting into pool after all these chemicals?
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Quote Originally Posted by IamWebb223 View Post
    Do i need to wait a certain amount of time before getting into pool after all these chemicals?
    30 minutes between additions (except CYA, which will be ongoing) is plenty of time for things to mix and you can get in after the last one has had time to disperse. Swimming will actually help mix things.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Ok, I've added everything that I've been told to do. Anything else i need to do before testing it in a week? Thanks in advance.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    You'll need to test and adjust pH and FC. Only the CYA needs to wait a week to test. http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...-care-schedule
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    You need to test the FC every day or other once you get the hang of what your pool needs. Don't wait a week between tests!
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    Ok, I've added everything that I've been told to do.
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    Re: First T100Test results...

    I have read the articles but I've never owned a pool before so of course i'm going to do what im told from the experts at first, right?!?
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    Updated test results...

    Chlorine - 2
    Ph - 7.8
    TA - 170
    CYA - 55-60

    I just backwashed the pool if that has anything to do with my results.

    According to the pool math calculator i need to add the following:
    43 oz. of bleach
    42 oz. of MA - which will also help lower my TA(been high since i filled pool)
    And then im supposed to replace my water to lower my CYA?!?

    Is there any way to lower my CYA another way?
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    Updated test results...need a lil advice please

    Yes your FC needs to get into range for your CYA level. It is low. That would be a min of 5 and you should be targeting 9. That gives you some wiggle room for FC loss so you don't fall below your min. Can you give a CC result and how does your water look ?
    With your CYA level at 60 you can just let it there. Just keep your FC in range for it. That will take testing and adding chlorine everyday. Your pool water gets hungry for chlorine so you have to feed it !
    Your TA will also come down over time by lowering your PH with acid. When it gets to 7.8 drop it down some. 😎
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