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    Is this okay

    Installer says he can work in the slack (in bead to right if ladder) . I am skeptical. If it doesn't work I'll have wasted a lot if money on water. Thoughts?

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    It does not look good to me, although if it was me I would concentrate on trying to work it in on the left side as you have more length and your not dealing with the right corner.
    On another note, why is the ladder installed? That should happen at the very end of things. The liner needs to be set with a vacuum and all the creases need to be removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudavic View Post
    It does not look good to me, although if it was me I would concentrate on trying to work it in on the left side as you have more length and your not dealing with the right corner.
    On another note, why is the ladder installed? That should happen at the very end of things. The liner needs to be set with a vacuum and all the creases need to be removed.
    This pool was originally built by a farmer with a dream. The ladder is hard set in the concrete, not removable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconCheesePie View Post
    This pool was originally built by a farmer with a dream. The ladder is hard set in the concrete, not removable.
    Of course it is. It's called a sawzall....
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    Re: Is this okay

    If he gets the bead all stuffed in, is there anything I should look for when it is done that would kinda indicate something that would become a problem after a couple of seasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconCheesePie View Post
    If he gets the bead all stuffed in, is there anything I should look for when it is done that would kinda indicate something that would become a problem after a couple of seasons?
    If he can get all of the bead to stuff back in there, the next step would be to set the liner with a vacuum.
    When the liner is sucked into place you should know if you are going to have problems.
    If there are wrinkles present during this process you will have them forever, if there are no wrinkles you should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconCheesePie View Post
    If it doesn't work I'll have wasted a lot if money on water.
    My water company gives me a yearly credit that can be used to waive a large bill. These can only be used for a leak and filling a pool. I would see if your water company offers this.
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    Re: Is this okay

    Thanks for the responses. If the contractor ever comes back to finish the job I'll watch for wrinkles for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconCheesePie View Post
    Thanks for the responses. If the contractor ever comes back to finish the job I'll watch for wrinkles for sure.
    That doesn't sound good. Hopefully he will show up to finish the job. I hate to ask but did you pay him for anything yet?

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    Re: Is this okay

    I don't think it's good for a liner to go without water very long, sitting in the sun. I could be wrong, but don't think it's a good idea. Is there any water in the pool at all? I can't imagine filling would cure that gap in the liner bead, can it be fixed at the right hand corner?
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    Sort of got it figured out yesterday. We are really only dealing with / paying a local pool place. We did half payment up front. It turns out that delays we are experiencing are the fault of the pool place, not the contractor. For example (not the only holdup), the current hold up is missing foam on the walls. We noticed after it got to the point in the picture that they didn't install foam, which we payed the pool place for. That was the last time we saw him. When we call the pool place: The first Monday: The contractor will be out there later today to do some work and will finish it on Tuesday. On Tuesday (no contractor): He should be out there, we'll call and check. Two hours later and no response: 'We haven't had time to call him yet, we'll call him now.' Several more hours later the contractor actually calls us to let us know that the pool place forgot to order the foam and it should be in soon.

    tl;dr - The pool place for some reason can't tell us that they made mistakes that are taking over a month instead of the 1 week they promised. Instead they seem to infer the contractor is at fault.

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    Well if they hired the contractor as a sub it is still their fault. I assume you didn't buy a liner from them and hire someone else to install it??
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    Sorry to hear about the problems and delays.
    It certainly sounds like a lot of frustration, hopefully it will all work out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ship of fools View Post
    Well if they hired the contractor as a sub it is still their fault. I assume you didn't buy a liner from them and hire someone else to install it??
    Right, their sub.
    And today the delivery truck with the foam broke down. Maybe tomorrow it will be abducted by aliens just as it is pulling up to their store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baconCheesePie View Post
    Right, their sub.
    And today the delivery truck with the foam broke down. Maybe tomorrow it will be abducted by aliens just as it is pulling up to their store.
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    Re: Is this okay

    So it is in now. There are some wrinkles that the installer still plans to work out. But I am worried about the stairs. The stairs have excess material in some spots and are stretched away from the sides in others. He doesn't set to think it will be problem really. I am concerned that it will stiffen and crack after a few years. I also worry that it might be a tripping hazard. Do you think there is anything I can do with them? Or is this just kind of normal?


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    I have never dealt with having a new liner installed but i have seen lots of pools and none look remotely like that.

    If it were me i would make him get it squared away before i paid the bill!
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    Sorry, but thats NOT acceptable.
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    I sympathize with you....it doesn't appear that is an acceptable result for a brand new pool liner, professionally installed. Do everything you can to get the installer to make that right.
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    Re: Is this okay

    Thats awful! Heck my above ground pool doesnt even have any wrinkles like that!!!!
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