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    New Manager of Pools with Problems

    I'm a pool manager in NJ who is taking over some pools with problems. Both pools have Hayward sand filters. The sand for both pools hasn't been changed in 6+ years. There may also be broken laterals.

    Pool A
    I found that Pool A's filter reeks inside after opening it up and I can even see old paint chips inside on top of the sand. It has air leaking in somewhere in one of the skimmer lines before the pump, I don't know where the leak is yet, but I am able to isolate it and cut off that line and have read through the "Suction Side Air Leak" section in pool school, and I want to try those methods as soon as I can. It also has a damaged skimmer fitting that was leaking water out that I sealed with pool putty.

    Pool A also wasn't painted properly so the paint is very gooey in some spots. It probably also needs a new spider gasket, but I haven't checked yet. Pool A is an old concrete slab pool the age of which I do not know, but it could be 40+. It is surrounded by concrete sidewalks and all the pipes leading to the filter, (which is indoors and also has concrete under it), are under those sidewalks. It may also need its discharge pipe rerouted.

    I've been told that in order to fix the skimmer fitting that I sealed with pool putty, I'll need to have somebody take a jackhammer to the sidewalk to take out the old fitting and put a new one in. Then I'd need to replace that sidewalk section. Needless to say, that sounds very expensive. As of right now, there is no leak, the putty has sealed it. Do I really need to jackhammer that out, or can I just trust the putty to do the job and replace the putty if needed, or is there another option? I've also been told I need to sand blast all the paint off, (also expensive), before repainting it. Is that necessary? I was thinking of power-washing and then painting.

    Pool B
    Pool B is a plaster pool that is not painted, it gets stains from plant matter, possibly metal stains, and in spots where people walk their feet can blister or cut. It has a discharge line that needs to be rerouted, but it can be done without digging up the old one, it can be severed and rerouted near the filter. The pool is about 10 years old.

    So, all of this is going to cost money and/or time. I would appreciate any advice concerning these issues.

    Finally, I read through the "Pool School" section on this website a few weeks back, and I just wanted to say, thank you. Reading through that taught me so much more than the CPO course I took, and following that section has saved us a whole bunch of money by not using chemicals we didn't need. The part about the relationship between CYA and the chlorine levels was also very helpful.

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    Sebring, Florida

    Re: New Manager of Pools with Problems

    Welcome to the forum.

    I wish I could offer more helpful advice but you pretty much nailed it when you said,
    "So, all of this is going to cost money and/or time."
    All these fixes indicate very badly neglected pool over long periods of time and now it it time to pay the piper.

    Hard for any of us to comment here about renovation because we see no pics and very, very, few here are Pool Mangers ....just pool owners.

    The simple answers is to get price quotes from folks who can do the work and present them to the owners.
    Dave S.
    42k vinyl and concrete pool, 1.5hp pump, 140gpm filter
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    Re: New Manager of Pools with Problems

    Thanks, the owners are the town government. These are free community pools, (not that uncommon in NJ). I'll take some pictures in the morning and post them when I can.
    Two IG pools, 40,000 gallons each
    One plaster, One concrete
    Sand Filters
    Pentair 100c filters

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    Silver Spring, MD

    Re: New Manager of Pools with Problems

    Sand blasting is often needed before repainting. You can skip the sand blasting if the old paint is in good condition and not flaking, but your description strongly suggests otherwise.

    The putty is a temporary fix at best. It should allow you to put off that repair for a while, but it is going to fail again.
    19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot
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    Re: New Manager of Pools with Problems

    Can you post test results for the second pool? Cutting and blistering feet indicate rough plaster. Rough plaster could be from calcium scale or just old, damaged plaster, or both.
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