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    I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    Not sure I am in the right place but here goes:
    I opened my pool for the first time in 2years (yikes) I know this is horrible but it is what it is.
    I have done this before and eventually got it cleared up.
    I can not remember the first step. I am thinking it is just massive amounts of shock and running filter and back washing for days. Anybody else know. Any thoughts on whether or not I add stabilizer first.
    I am 99% sure there is no chlorine at all in this water

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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

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    Always used the method of months of violations from Pool Stores selling me everything under the sun and then some. shock, more shock, did I say shock? Ph up/down. Stabilizer, hardness, algacide, stuff to remove the algacide metals I just added. I actually closed the pool and hid from it for two years. Somebody help please?
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    Welcome!

    First, if the pool is really awful looking, take pictures! We like pictures.
    Second, test the water. If the CYA level is way high, you may never be able to find enough bleach to get ahead of any algae. You'd need to drain some. How much? Test results!
    Third, remove any organic debris you can reach.
    Fourth: adjust pH.
    Fifth, add bleach to get to the appropriate shock level for your CYA and keep it up there.

    The directions are here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...tain-shockingl

    Look at the pictures!
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    A little encouragement for those with algae and new to BBB
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    oh man, i'm subscribing to this one!!! Can't wait to see some pics!
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    Welcome to TFP!

    When Richard asks for test results, he means performed by you using one the recommended test kits (see Pool School) and not any pool store testing or worse test strips. The SLAM process will clean any pool, but the first step of any action is getting test results.
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    Alright-will get pics this afternoon. Where do I get this test kit I need? All I have is test strips. I forgot to mention I was hoping to have this done in a week. Like to go buy the test kit rather than order online.
    I just bought all the chems I THOUGHT I would need such as shock, calcium hardness, algacide, chlorine tabs. I have not used them yet so I guess I can take them back if I am going to relearn a new way to do this.
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    http://www.amazon.com/TAYLOR-TECHNOL...=taylor+k-2006

    Is this it? ANy other things I should order from Amazon while I am at it?
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    TAYLOR TECHNOLOGIES INC K-2006 TEST KIT COMP CHLORINE FAS-DPD
    Found this at Amazon? Is this what I need?

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    Anything else I should order at Amazon?
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    K2006 is it. That's the key piece.
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    Alright. I read through this SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain as recommended.
    Really unsure about what I am doing.
    Before getting on here the other day my goal was to get it cleaned up and recover as quickly as possible because the darn pool has always been a mystery to me and I am scared, literally of the money it can (and has) cost me. I sort of clean it up every two years and then to pretend it is not back there in the yard until time to do it again and then the ANGST comes on..it is here now and I am hoping to make it through with the help of this forum.
    After reading a bit on here I am starting to feel maybe I can learn to tackle this backyard beast and fear it no longer.
    So I am going to start shocking it tonight after the sun goes down? 3lbs of shock and run the pump? Going to spend the day pulling out dead stuff at the bottom? Am I on the right track?
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    for some reason it is not allowing me to add the rest of the pics. Says "you've used up your qouta?"

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    Oh the shame....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanelvaps View Post
    Alright. I read through this SLAM - Shock Level And Maintain as recommended.
    Really unsure about what I am doing.
    Before getting on here the other day my goal was to get it cleaned up and recover as quickly as possible because the darn pool has always been a mystery to me and I am scared, literally of the money it can (and has) cost me. I sort of clean it up every two years and then to pretend it is not back there in the yard until time to do it again and then the ANGST comes on..it is here now and I am hoping to make it through with the help of this forum.
    After reading a bit on here I am starting to feel maybe I can learn to tackle this backyard beast and fear it no longer.
    So I am going to start shocking it tonight after the sun goes down? 3lbs of shock and run the pump? Going to spend the day pulling out dead stuff at the bottom? Am I on the right track?
    How can you? You don't know where you are chemically. If you're already high on CYA, dichlor or trichlor "shock" will just make a bad situation worse. If CH is high, Cal-hypo "shock" will make it higher. While it's a good bet the pool will have zero FC right now, so dosing it up to shock level is a relatively simple thing, then what? You need to keep hitting it. Knock it down and kick it while it's down again and again and again until it's dead. But you won't know how much FC is left, so you have no idea how much more to add. The alternative is to let it run back to zero, which means whatever you dumped in accomplished nothing.

    What you can do is vacuum blind. Brush. Use the leaf rake to scoop out as much organic debris as you can. The filter will probably load up pretty quick, so watch the gauge and the return flow and prepare to backwash.

    It's frustrating as all heck to not be able to do something, but without a test kit on site, you're working blind. It's like trying to paint a picture in the dark. You'll get paint on the canvas, sure. But it won't look like anything and you'll have just wasted paint and spoiled a canvas.

    Leaf rake:


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    Use the leaf rake first and pull out everything you can. As long as you are getting something keep using it. Everything you get out with the rake is that much less the chlorine has to deal with and the less chlorine $$$ you will have to use. It will also keep the vacuum from plugging or filling the basket as quickly. Then get used to brushing everything at least once a day. You're doing it blind but you need to do it.
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    The TF-100 test kit is the better deal and you would need the XL option. If if you already offered the K2006, you should order refills for the FAS-DPD chlorine test and the CYA test because you will run out before you compete the SLAM.
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    I put TF-100 Pool test kit in the Amazon search bar and it brought me back to this http://www.amazon.com/TAYLOR-TECHNOL...+pool+test+kit
    looks like the same thing?
    I have not bought anything. Unsure of what to buy and do not want to buy the wrong thing. I was also waiting to hear if I needed to order anything else from Amazon like Cyanuric Acid?

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    The TF-100 test kit is the better deal and you would need the XL option. If if you already offered the K2006, you should order refills for the FAS-DPD chlorine test and the CYA test because you will run out before you compete the SLAM.
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    do you have a link?

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    The TF-100 test kit is the better deal and you would need the XL option. If if you already offered the K2006, you should order refills for the FAS-DPD chlorine test and the CYA test because you will run out before you compete the SLAM.
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    Alright going to spend a long time doing this. Pump running or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by kiss4afrog View Post
    Use the leaf rake first and pull out everything you can. As long as you are getting something keep using it. Everything you get out with the rake is that much less the chlorine has to deal with and the less chlorine $$$ you will have to use. It will also keep the vacuum from plugging or filling the basket as quickly. Then get used to brushing everything at least once a day. You're doing it blind but you need to do it.
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    The TF-100 is not on Amazon. Only sold by tftestkits.net on the east coast with the options available or poolsupplyworld.com on the west coast for just the kit.

    You can buy all you needed chemicals locally. Why buy what you don't know you need?
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    Re: I opened my pool for the first time in 2years

    Alright found it.
    $81 and this is a better deal? I am guessing I will be saving on chemicals? (hoping)


    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    The TF-100 is not on Amazon. Only sold by tftestkits.net on the east coast with the options available or poolsupplyworld.com on the west coast for just the kit.

    You can buy all you needed chemicals locally. Why buy what you don't know you need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanelvaps View Post
    Alright found it.
    $81 and this is a better deal? I am guessing I will be saving on chemicals? (hoping)
    It comes with larger quantities of what you use the most. The cheaper K-2006 uses the same size bottles for everything. The number of tests each kit provides is in a table here.

    With a green swamp, you'll want the XL option, so you won't need refills right away. Saves on shipping. It will probably take you through this season and opening next year.
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    IMHO, The TF-100 is a bit of $$$ but you will also be saving money in not having to drive to the pool store to get your water tested. At almost four bucks a gallon the test kit doesn't look so expensive and can pay for itself while keeping your pool clear and blue.

    You don't need to order CYA / stabilizer from amazon unless you just can get to Walmart or HomeDepot or .... They should carry it on the shelf. http://www.homedepot.com/p/HTH-4-lb-...1316/100239944 This is just the HTH product but there are others too.
    If you need baking soda for raising pH Walmart among others will have that on hand too so no need to stock up. It would be in a 12lb bag with the pool stuff. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Arm-Hammer...92-oz/17043412

    I would just rake without the pump on. Less circulation and whatever you miss with the rake and stir up will settle back sooner. Rake until you don't get anything and remember anything you pull out makes the SLAM faster, easier and cheaper as you won't need as much bleach. Once you aren't getting anything in the rake and that might take a day or two or three depending on when your arms or patience give out then I'd vacuum and brush and run the pump to try and catch whatever you loosen. Once the big stuff is out with the rake try to brush at least once daily and pull your ladder if you have one and scrub it good especially checking under each step and if you have a light pull it and clean the niche.
    It's just so much easier to vacuum once you've pulled out the big stuff and don't have to empty the skimmer basket every minute or two.
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