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    Getting stuff ready

    Hello,

    I am moving in a house with a pool next week. Looking to stock up a few items. Help me here.

    Already have the following:

    -ordered the TF-100 Test with speedstir

    -a net to pick debris

    Will need the following:

    1) stock up bleach/chlorine

    2) cyanuric acid from pool store

    3) Kem-Tek 2-Gallon Muriatic Acid from Lowes

    4) vacuum (electric robotic or connected to skimmer). Any recommendations ? I read the Dolphin brand with the electric that is independent of the skimmer has great reviews.

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    1- Yes
    2- or Walmart or hardware store
    3- They only sell half strength stuff here for the same price as the full strength at the pool store.
    4- Lots of options. If you go with suction, get ThePoolCleaner. Not sure what robot to recommend.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Quote Originally Posted by trackstar2000 View Post
    Hello,

    I am moving in a house with a pool next week. Looking to stock up a few items. Help me here.

    Already have the following:

    -ordered the TF-100 Test with speedstir

    -a net to pick debris

    Will need the following:

    1) stock up bleach/chlorine

    2) cyanuric acid from pool store

    3) Kem-Tek 2-Gallon Muriatic Acid from Lowes

    4) vacuum (electric robotic or connected to skimmer). Any recommendations ? I read the Dolphin brand with the electric that is independent of the skimmer has great reviews.
    How do you know you need CYA? Most everyone has too high CYA from continuous puck usage.

    If this is the acid you plan to buy- it's half-strength stuff. You'll need to pay the deposit on the jugs and crate, but you can buy full strength stuff for a lot less at Johnny's. I sent you a PM the other day. You can also mix-n-match 31% acid and 12.5% bleach if you want. Yesterday I bought 4 gallons of each - $37.50 out the door, taxed and everything. Plus I got 8 punches on my buy 11, get 1 free card. I already had the empties to exchange.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    I'm with Richard. Don't buy CYA yet, shop around and price it. If you do end up needing it, you'll know where to go.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Good catch Richard ... for some reason I had it in my head that the pool was a new fresh fill and would need CYA.

    I am not doing well today keeping things straight
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Thanks guys. I really think I prefer the suction ones that connect to the skimmer. Learning a lot here already.

    Richard, just confirming that I can mix a ratio of 31% acid (Muriatic Acid) and 12.5% bleach together?

    Also for the The Poolcleaner 4X suction, do I just hook it up 24/7 and leave it there and when the pumps run, it will do its job? I am assuming I have to check the other basket near the pump more often if it is connected to the skimmer.


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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Quote Originally Posted by trackstar2000 View Post
    Thanks guys. I really think I prefer the suction ones that connect to the skimmer. Learning a lot here already.

    Richard, just confirming that I can mix a ratio of 31% acid (Muriatic Acid) and 12.5% bleach together?

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    Not the chemicals themselves. You can buy a combination 3/1 or 2/2 at the pool store. Just has to be multiples of 4.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    And since I misread that the first couple of times myself, that's a combination of gallon jugs, eg 3 x 1 gallon jugs of bleach and 1 x 1 gallon jug of acid for a total of 4 jugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgman View Post
    And since I misread that the first couple of times myself, that's a combination of gallon jugs, eg 3 x 1 gallon jugs of bleach and 1 x 1 gallon jug of acid for a total of 4 jugs.
    A guy at the pool store said the same 3 to 1 ratio (bleach to acid).

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    Do NOT mix bleach and muriatic acid directly with each other - it will release chlorine gas.
    What was meant is that you do not necessarily have to buy 4 jugs of bleach and 4 jugs of muriatic acid, you can buy 3 jugs of one and 1 jug of another, or 2 of each.

    Also, there is no fixed ratio of bleach to muriatic acid, you should base additions on PoolMath rather than taking what the guy at the pool store told you at face value.

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Thanks so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abigail K View Post
    Do NOT mix bleach and muriatic acid directly with each other - it will release chlorine gas.
    What was meant is that you do not necessarily have to buy 4 jugs of bleach and 4 jugs of muriatic acid, you can buy 3 jugs of one and 1 jug of another, or 2 of each.

    Also, there is no fixed ratio of bleach to muriatic acid, you should base additions on PoolMath rather than taking what the guy at the pool store told you at face value.

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    usually the previous owner will leave brush and net etc behind
    but if not add a brush to your list
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Quote Originally Posted by Abigail K View Post
    Do NOT mix bleach and muriatic acid directly with each other - it will release chlorine gas.
    What was meant is that you do not necessarily have to buy 4 jugs of bleach and 4 jugs of muriatic acid, you can buy 3 jugs of one and 1 jug of another, or 2 of each.

    Also, there is no fixed ratio of bleach to muriatic acid, you should base additions on PoolMath rather than taking what the guy at the pool store told you at face value.
    Also, do not store MA near the chlorine. You want to make sure they cannot come in contact with each other if a leak happens.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    What type and size pool is it?

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

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    What type and size pool is it?

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    Its a chlorine pool (conventional), kidney shape. I will get the dimension once I get the keys this Thursday. Ordered the ThePoolCleaner 4x. Thanks for the advice.

    For those who advised not to mix bleach and muriatic acid together, I assumed when its time to pour them into the pool, I would want to do it at different time with long interval between each other?

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Quote Originally Posted by trackstar2000 View Post
    Its a chlorine pool (conventional), kidney shape. I will get the dimension once I get the keys this Thursday. Ordered the ThePoolCleaner 4x. Thanks for the advice.

    For those who advised not to mix bleach and muriatic acid together, I assumed when its time to pour them into the pool, I would want to do it at different time with long interval between each other?
    I do the chlorine and muriatic additions about 30 mins apart..
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    After pouring in to the pool, it is near impossible to have a reaction after just a few minutes. 30 minutes is safe, but you do not need nearly that long.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    Quote Originally Posted by jblizzle View Post
    After pouring in to the pool, it is near impossible to have a reaction after just a few minutes. 30 minutes is safe, but you do not need nearly that long.
    Thanks. Also to TSiGirl.

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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    I add my chemicals very closely in time. Measure MA, Dump MA in front of shallow end return, rinse cup, measure chlorine if needed, dump chlorine in front of deep end jet, rinse cup.
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    Re: Getting stuff ready

    If you haven't already done so, take your test kit with you on your initial walk through and run the full battery of tests and post the results here. Give us an idea of overall water appearance. A pool on the edge will fall over rather quickly without swift and decisive action.
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