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    About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Howdy y'all.

    First let me say that this site is great. I've been reading everything I can for a week or two, and feel like I'm ready for this pool maintenance stuff.

    I close on a house with a pool July 22. I've already ordered the TF100 XL with the speedstir, so I should be good to go straight away.

    About the only things I know about the pool from a 5 minute conversation with the owner, it has a cartridge filter, tablet chlorinator and a gas heater. I don't know size of pool or pumps.

    Since he's using pucks, can I assume that the CYA is going to be super high? I'm guessing it's likely I'll be doing a partial drain/refill straight away followed by a SLAM just to get started on the right foot? The water looks pretty good, but I guess I won't know until I do the first set of tests.

    There is a big rust stain on one of the stairs, what is the best way to remove that? Also, the tile appears to have calcium deposits, how can I remove that and get it all cleaned up?

    Anything else I should be thinking about ahead of time?

    Thanks
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Welcome!

    You're on the right track. Good work on reading and buying the test kit first.

    While unsightly, staining and calcium don't pose a problem, per se. I would worry first, foremost, and only about performing your first set of tests, then go from there to get the water balanced. You may or may not have to SLAM, but spend some time learning your pool first. Once you really understand it, then tackle the staining. It will be much easier than trying to fix multiple things at once.
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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    You should ask the current owner if he knows the gallonage of the pool....
    8,000 gallon, in ground, fiberglass pool with a cartridge filter.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Ok, here's what I've got.

    14,000 gal

    FC - 0.5
    CC - 0
    PH - 7.8
    CH - 500
    TA - 130
    CYA - 200+ (I diluted by half, and then by 75%)

    My plan of action is to dump a jug of bleach into the pool to get close to the minimum FC level. Then drain as much water as I can and refill. Then retest and go from there.

    Thoughts?
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Forgot to mention water looks great despite the low chlorine level.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Put 121 oz of 7.86% bleach in.

    FC - 8
    CC - 0.5

    Planning on starting the drain in the morning.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    You're right....200+ is unmanageable. Let us know the new CYA level after the first drain.
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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Drained as much as I could. Pump lost prime somewhere between 50% and 75% drained. Probably closer to 75. Been refilling for a while now. This is going to take a long time.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Is this a plaster pool? If so, go out and spray the plaster walls with the hose; keep the plaster damp while it's re-filling. You don't want it to get too dry or hot or it may form cracks.
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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Yes plaster. Thanks for the tip.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Pool is finally full. Ended up doing an inadvertent partial 2nd drain.

    Here's what I've got now:

    PH -7.8
    FC - 0.5
    CC - 0
    CH - 175
    TA - 150
    CYA - 50

    Headed to the store to get some acid and calcium chloride. Let's see if they attempt to pool store me.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    You need to get your FC level up. The min FC level for a CYA of 50 is 4. I would target 7-8. 😎
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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Thanks. Sorry, forgot to mention I dumped a jug of bleach in right after those results. About to retest fc.
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Fc - 7
    cc - 0
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Good job !!😎
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    24'x54" AG Morada RTR (by wilbar) 13'500 gal. Hayward Powerflo Matrix 1hp 2 speed. Hayward Perflex EC65 DE filter.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    I added acid and calcium chloride and got the following results.

    8/3
    PH - 7
    FC - 1.5
    CC - 0
    CH - 225
    TA - 140

    Looks like they worked, but why is my FC dropping so fast? I added more bleach and brought FC back to 6 and started aerating to bring ph back up.

    Tested again this morning.

    8/4 - 4:15am
    PH - 7.3
    FC - 1.5

    So the aerating is working, but once again my FC is plummeting. I've never gotten a CC above zero since the drain/refill. Thoughts?
    Closing on home with a pool on July 22 (never owned a pool before).
    Not sure how many gallons yet or what type/size of pumps.
    Cartridge filter and current owner is using a tablet chlorinator.

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Yay! on the manageable CYA level.

    That large a drop in FC with CYA at 50 seems really strange. I would SLAM; the chlorine is reacting with something. Is CC at 0 first thing in the morning before the sun hits the water?
    Outdoor 14,000 gallon IG plaster pool built in 2000 with spillover spa, 2 hp WhisperFlo pump with MagneTek motor, Sta-Rite cartridge pool filter with 300 ft2 filtration area and 0.33 gpm/ft2 filtration rate, Aquabot Rapids 4WD robotic pool cleaner, Raypak digital gas heater, and Intermatic mechanical timer located in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex

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    Re: About to be first time (new to me) pool owner

    Look around for places algae or other biologicals may be hiding.
    May not apply to you, but l recently bought a house with pool, finally got around to tracking down a random disconnected pipe that comes up near my pump/filter... turns out that it runs strait into the pool. Seems to be an abandoned connection for some sort of cleaner. Problem is since the previous owner abandoned it in place, it gets zero circulation and who knows what nasties are growing in there. I've taken to dumping diluted bleach directly in it every couple days. First couple days I flushed out a lot of crud.

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