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    Reconnecting 2nd return

    And here's yet another question from a new and confused pool owner.

    We just opened our pool for the first time this year (bought the house last year). It had been closed for about 4-5 years the neighbor thinks. Whoever "winterized" it, and I use that term loosely, cut the hoses leaded to the pump and from the filter. There were originally 2 return hoses. The pool guy we paid to open the pool said you really only need one, but having read a great deal over the past couple of weeks, I get the feeling that if the deep end return were hooked up, it would vastly improve overall circulation and we would not have little algae issues in the deep end. Right now, little lumps of it are forming regularly--I think it's green, although it looks brownish. The water itself is crystal clear and chlorine and pH levels are in the ideal range. (We didn't buy an elaborate kit, because we didn't know. We are using 3" tablets in a floater, because that's what the pool guy said to do. Live and learn.)

    Anyhoo, we believe that to reconnect this return, we would attach a pvc t-connection, then run a hose from each side. Is this correct? Fingers crossed the pictures worked, so you can see what we're dealing with.
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    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Bump......any suggestions about how to connect two returns when there's only one output on the filter?
    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Get rid of the kinked hose for one. You should be able to hard plumb it all or switch from the flex to hard PVC and either simply add a PVC tee fitting or maybe better add a pool 3-way valve like the Neverlube.
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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    When I added a 2nd return to my above ground pool, I used a PVC "Y", not a tee, & installed a shutoff valve on each line going to the returns. A three way would accomplish the same thing also.
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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Is the pool info in your signature correct? Could you post some more pictures showing where the pool plumbing connects to the pool or goes into the ground?
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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Quote Originally Posted by ultra800_96 View Post
    When I added a 2nd return to my above ground pool, I used a PVC "Y", not a tee, & installed a shutoff valve on each line going to the returns. A three way would accomplish the same thing also.
    Was the y pressure rated schedule 40 PVC? I doubt it.
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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Thank you all. I've started a Photobucket page with pictures of all the working parts. I'm new to Photobucket as of 10 minutes ago, so I haven't figured out how to put captions, but hopefully you can figure out everything. I've tried to put things in logical order.

    http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/shannonr3/library/

    Our plan is to just redo all of the stuff that's above ground hose-wise. I don't know how we could replace those ugly black hoses with PVC, but if someone has a plan, please do tell me. The set up is I don't know how old. Obviously the kinked hose is not ideal and will be coming out. Any suggestions are gratefully appreciated.


    Edit: Figured out captions
    Info in signature is correct and I've just added more details
    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Bump----now with pictures
    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    And I woke up this morning to find the pool drained below the skimmer and the hose to the filter had popped off for the third time! No matter how much we tighten it, it blows off.

    So, I think we need to go all PVC down to those black underground hoses

    Argh!
    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Hi dagny,

    This is my first post but I felt compelled to contribute since I just helped my neighbor get through this frustration. Basically what you need to convert the black poly to hard sch 40 pvc is this: "460-015 1.5 barb by 1.5 spigot WHITE" from this website http://flexpvc.com/cart/agora.cgi?pr...rs-Slip-Spigot. I took a guess at what size the poly pipe was so you'll have to measure to make sure. A plumbing shop will probably carry these fittings but home depot and menards by me do not.

    You'll remove the current fittings from the black Poly. Clean it all up nice, make sure the cut is square for a good fit. Slip 2 pipe clamps on each black pipe. Then use a propane torch to carefully heat the pipe, not to the point of melting, but softer so that the barbed fitting fits in easier and so that you can get the clamps nice and tight. Once tightened, you can use standard sch 40 PVC with solvent primer and glue. Once you have the pipe converted, you could bury the whole thing so you don't even see the black pipe anymore and then use a PVC elbow to bring the hard PVC out of the ground.

    How you connect the returns together is up to you. A Tee fitting will work but a Jandy 3 way valve would be ideal so you can send all of the water to one return if ever necessary. Replumbing the rest of the setup is as easy as removing the old stuff and putting in hard PVC. You'll need new fittings into and out of the pump and into and out of the filter since those fittings are barbed and you'll need PVC slip fittings for use with PVC solvent. You could take it apart, run to the store with the old fittings to make sure the threaded ends for the pump in filter are the correct size for your application.

    You may want to pressure test that second return prior to reconnecting it just in case....

    Good Luck! This way worked for me. I'm sure there are others!

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    Re: Reconnecting 2nd return

    Thank you, Daxy! This is really really helpful. I'm kind of excited to get it done now
    25,000 gallon in ground vinyl pool 16' X 32'
    65 gal/hour DE filter--Hayward--model number EC65A
    Hayward Superpump--model number C48J2N131B1
    Pool is approximately 40-45 years old

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