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    New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Hello there, just posted an intro in the inter forum, and now have a few questions about getting the levels right.

    Current readings are:

    TH: 400
    FC: 2
    PH: below 6.4
    TA: 40
    CYA: 0

    I added conditioner for the CYA 3 days ago, approx 10oz by weight.

    I have read that I can use Borax and baking soda to treat my Low TA and my low PH, can you direct me to where there is a chart for dosage.
    Also, the best way to introduce then into my pool (see signature)

    Thank you so much.

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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Just wanted to add, that at this time, these are the only numbers I can post.
    I am using the hth 5 way test strip. Will invest in a better test kit asap, on that front, what would be the entry level test kit you would recommend?

    Again, I thank you for any and all advice and help!!

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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    The key to a good test kit is the FAS-DPD chlorine test, which makes the kits expensive.
    For your small pool, you should be able to get by with a simple OTO/pH kit like the Taylor K-1000, but I would put ZERO faith in any results from test strips. If things happen to go south, it is easy enough to drain your pool and start over.

    Take a look at the Guide for Temporary/Seasonal Pools as one option to maintain your pool.

    You can use PoolMath to calculate your chemical additions.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Just got 3 boxes of borax and a huge bag of baking soda. In the car on my phone... Wife is driving .... So can't get to the calculator to see what to add. Also picked up some more conditioner and will order or pick up a real test kit this week. Thoughts on swimming tonight after adding the borax baking soda?
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    You could swim in the pool now. The low pH might irritate some. Add the borax and let it circulate for 30 minutes and jump in.
    Do not raise the TA much higher than 80ppm.
    You should also get the CYA dissolving in a sock quickly too ... fine to swim at the same time.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Awesome thanks. I added cya a few days ago so waiting to see if it comes up. Will sock some up and let it hang out small maybe 1/2 dose of the cya
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    added 3.5 pounds of borax and 14 oz of Baking soda....daughter is counting the minutes.......

    I can say that the water has always looked amazing, never cloudy

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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    WHOA ... hold on.
    Where did you come up with the need to add that much borax?
    For that matter how did you get a pH of 6.4?

    Test the TA and pH 30 minutes after you added this stuff.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Any chance you have those numbers backwards ?? 3.5 baking soda and 14oz borax ?? What I see in the calculator that is closer.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Ummm let me see what the test says
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Current numbers

    TH between 200-300
    FC 2
    PH 7.2
    TA 120
    CYA still not reDing

    I am using strips until I get my test kit this week

    I got all my numbers from the pool math cal.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    ok, so after looking again at the numbers I started the pool math calculator with:TH: 400
    TH 200
    FC: 2
    PH: 6.4
    TA: 40
    CYA: 0

    I think what happened is at one pout it said to add 77oz of Borax, but then I add the rest of the numbers, and forgot to hit calculate at the top......

    I took the estimated TA increase and added that to my starting point for TA to figure out my baking soda addition.

    There is a very good chance that I screwd up big time, but if that is the case, I will work through it.

    Thanks for all the help

    Tim

    Edit to add: I will go tomorrow and get the HTH 6 way test kit, as it is recommended in the seasonal pool guide.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Where did the water come from ?? When you say new pool, new to you or you installed a new pool ?? What did you use to fill it City water, well water ??

    The CYA can take up to a week to show up. If you have it in a sock you need to get in there and knead it .. work it into the water. Spend some time squeezing the bag and then submerging it and squeezing it again. Gets the CYA into the water faster.

    They don't like test strips but it's what you have and it's what we have to work with for now

    Don't worry if you made a mistake, it's only water and it's fixable.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    It is an ez set pool this is the first fill of the year. Last year my wife tried to set it up but the ground was too I level and it never got used.

    I filled with city water and have not add any new cya yet. Guess we need to figure out the rest of the water
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Just noticed your signature says "no swimming yet".

    If it's city water like you shower in and not any odd green color you should be ok to swim in it. Might want to ad a cup or two of bleach (IMHO FC 5) but otherwise ... the numbers look safe.
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    ok thanks, we went swimming for about 1/2 an hour. No one has died and our skin is still on our bones...lol

    I will get the test kit tomorrow, and post back what the numbers report.

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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Quote Originally Posted by TMX View Post
    ok thanks, we went swimming for about 1/2 an hour. No one has died and our skin is still on our bones...lol
    Skin falling off isn't that bad, it's the itching when it stays on
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    I am off to get the test kit, silly test strips showed:
    TH 200
    FC: 2
    PH: 6.8
    TA: 120
    CYA: 0 - still not sure about this one yet...

    Will post up test kit results as soon as I have them.
    Question about TA vs CH, I have a water report, can I use that to figure out the CH?

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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Updated test results using the HTH 6 way test kit.

    CL/Br 3/6
    Ph 7.8
    TA 200
    TH 350
    CYA still not showing up
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    Re: New pool owner - water treatment question.

    Hour much CYA have you added. Ignore the TA and focus on FC and pH.
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