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    Cloudy water, high TA

    Hey guys, trying to open my pool for the year but I am having trouble getting the water clear. I made the mistake of leaving the pool uncovered for the winter, so it was a swampy mess with lots of debris when I started. Got my CYA and FC up and pool cleared up considerably, eventually the water was clear and I could see the bottom. Started scooping and vacuuming the stuff off the bottom and everything was going fine. After a heavy rain 5 days ago the water turned kind of a milky white and I cannot seem to get it clear. I have been running the filter non-stop since it clouded up with no change. I have been trying to continue getting debris from the bottom, but I am operating blind because I can only see about 1 foot below the surface. Here are my current tests:
    FC 7.5
    CC 0.5
    pH 7.4
    TA 380 (I know this is high, more on that below)
    CH 150
    CYA 40 (Have been raising slowly, just added enough to bring it to around 50 3 days ago)
    Salt 3100

    Now I know my TA is high, but I battle that every year and have never had this problem. My fill water starts out at TA 320 out of the tap. TA was 410 2 days ago and I started lowering pH with MA and aerating.
    Any help would be appreciated. It is warm enough to swim now and I want to use my pool!
    24' Intex Above Ground Pool
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    Re: Cloudy water, high TA

    TA has nothing to do with the cloudiness. You need to follow the ShockLevelAndMAINTAIN Process until you pass the 3 criteria to stop.

    You could try a little DE in the filter to see if that helps to clear up the cloudiness: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...-a-sand-filter
    ... this can be done toward the end of the SLAM.
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    Re: Cloudy water, high TA

    What he said ^^^

    Follow his link. In brief, what you'll be doing is raising FC level to 20. This is because you've added CYA to get to 50; assume it's there. Every couple hours, test it again and raise it back up to 20. Brush and vacuum and clean the filters as necessary. It may take a few days, but you should start seeing a decrease in chlorine consumption and some clearing after the first full day. Don't stop maintaining the FC until you pass the three tests.
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    Re: Cloudy water, high TA

    I have been keeping the FC level as high as possible, but I can only really work on the pool in the morning before work and evening after work. I have been adding about a gallon of 8.25% in the morning and evening to keep the FC level above 10. The 7.5 reading was just after work and it was a very sunny and hot day today. I assumed that I had killed off at least most of the algae as my CC level had dropped so low and stayed low. Is that not correct? I guess I am just getting discouraged as I have seen zero improvement in days.
    24' Intex Above Ground Pool
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    Intel SWCG for 15000 up to gallon pools
    In business since Summer 2012

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    Re: Cloudy water, high TA

    Quote Originally Posted by adiadasman View Post
    I have been keeping the FC level as high as possible, but I can only really work on the pool in the morning before work and evening after work. I have been adding about a gallon of 8.25% in the morning and evening to keep the FC level above 10. The 7.5 reading was just after work and it was a very sunny and hot day today. I assumed that I had killed off at least most of the algae as my CC level had dropped so low and stayed low. Is that not correct? I guess I am just getting discouraged as I have seen zero improvement in days.
    You won't see any improvement until you achieve shock level for your CYA, which is 20 FC.

    You just need to do what these people did:
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...-to-Clean-tale
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...ool-is-winning
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...glorious-swamp
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...28-TFP-Success
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...ark-Green-Pool

    Just scroll through and look at the pictures.
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    Re: Cloudy water, high TA

    Thanks for the help. I added another gallon of 8.25% at dusk, let it circulate for an hour and then tested. FC is 21.5. I will leave my SWG going overnight to bump let level up a bit more then test again in the morning. I am trying to find a cheaper source for bleach, cleaning up this pool is cleaning out my wallet at the same time, LOL.
    24' Intex Above Ground Pool
    As yet unidentified 21" Sand filter, 3/4HP motor
    Intel SWCG for 15000 up to gallon pools
    In business since Summer 2012

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