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    Changing size of DE filter

    I recently upgraded to an EcoStar VS pump, and I was curious if increasing the size of the filter would enhance the filtering of the system. I currently have a Hayward which I believe is about 30 sq ft, my filter is approx 60 feet from the pool, and I have 1 1/2 plumbing except for the 2" which is at the pump.
    I was curious if going to a 40 sq ft filter would make any difference?

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    18X36 inground with vinyl liner.. Hayward DE .... Upgraded to Hayward Ecostar
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    What is the volume of your pool? Add it to the signature.

    Increasing the filter size will reduce how often you need to clean the filter. I have a 60sqft DE on my 18k pool and only need to clean it 1-2 times per year.
    It may also lower the head loss and give you higher flow rates (not that this matters much with a VS pump).
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    Pool has 26,700 gal.....
    Just a question on head loss, how would lowering that help the system??
    Would a larger filter size change the pressure back to the pool at all?

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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    WHOA!!! Are you sure about that volume? Is is really 18x36? What shape? I see that is the volume for a rectangular pool with an average depth of 5.5' (which is pretty deep).

    If that volume is true, I would recommend at least a 60 sqft or even 72 sqft DE filter.

    For a fixed speed pump, lower the head loss (flow resistance) would allow a higher flow rate and thus stronger jets in the pool. But, you have a VS pump, so you can dial in the flow rate where ever you want. Although with that smaller filter, you should likely not be any where NEAR the max speed of that big pump.
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    Yea that is definitely the volume..... rectangular with 9' at the deep end and 3' at shallow....
    So you feel that the DE 60 sq ft would be a good upgrade?
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    Well, depends. Why do you not like the filter you have? If it is because you are having to clean the filter more often than you like, then with your shorter season, I would recommend the 60sqft filter.
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    I was thinking due to the increase in size of pump, and the fact that I moved it further away from the pool that it would be more efficient than the smaller filter.... If it will not make any difference I will just leave the one I have....
    Thanks for the reply...
    18X36 inground with vinyl liner.. Hayward DE .... Upgraded to Hayward Ecostar
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    A larger filter will do a better job, especially with the large pump if you are running at higher speeds, because the velocity through the filter material will be lower. But, if you are running the VS pump at low speeds like you should to save $, then your current filter should be "fine", but require more frequent cleanings.

    You should clean whenever the pressure rises 20-25% over the clean pressure, and that check should be done at a higher RPM (at least 2000), so you have a decent pressure reading.
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    Re: Changing size of DE filter

    Thanks again for the info...
    18X36 inground with vinyl liner.. Hayward DE .... Upgraded to Hayward Ecostar
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