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    New to Pool School!!!

    The long and the short of it. Me and my wife just purchased a "flipped" new home that had a 20 ft above ground pool in it. The home had been abandoned for about 4 years and the realators had no idea of if the pool not only worked but if there was any additional equipment. After a brief hunt in the garage we were able to find a hayward 1.5 hp pump and a swim pro voyager cartridge filter. The pool had no cover on it and after years of neglect had a lot of leaves and debris in it (we donít know if someone pumped the water out or if evaportated but there was no 'sludge" in the pool). My wife having nothing better to do evidently decided to try to get this pool up and running and got everything removed except for a pretty thin layer of dirt. At the advice of the local pool company she started filling the pool up so that we could vacuum out the dirt. 2 days later We hooked everything up, made sure we were getting a strong return from the pump and the filter through the return jet and thought we were going to start the vacuum process. Unfortunately, we arent getting any type of suction when we put the vacuum plate on the skimmer. ) Im pretty confident we have the vacuum hooked up right we even went and purchased a new hose made sure it was primed by filling it up with the return jet etc but its no suction at the plate at all. Knowing that we havent even gotten to the chemical process of the pool we are a little confused as to what our options are now. Could there be a problem with the pump and filter (hence the reason it was left)? Also itís a few stains at the bottom of the liner and a definate leak so should we just abandon ship now?? PS. the water is clear we donít have any type of green or anything in it and it definitely seems like everything on the bottom is dirt.

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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    Welcome to TFP!

    Are you filling the vacuum hose with water by putting the end in front of the return before you connect to the skimmer?
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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    Yes we are but there isn't even any type of suction without the hose attached... The weird thing is again a stong return on the jet and you can see a "tornado" like effect when the suction plate isn't attached

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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    Without the hose on it but the skimmer plate installed in the skimmer, do you see water being sucked in? Is there more than one skimmer? Water will find the easiest path, and a long corrugated twisty hose isn't as easy as a smooth short pipe.
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    there is not more than one skimmer unfortunately ... the suction plate as an elbow piece on it which actually is around the same height as the water in the pool so its not really "being sucked in" ... and with it attached when i put my hand in front of it i dont feel any type of suction do we need to fill the pool up more right now its about 3/4 of the way into the skimmer

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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    I'm wondering if that is really a vacuum plate or if it is a diverter with a round inlet. Is there a flap underneath that plate that can slide over and block a hole?
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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    no there is not give me a few min and i will upload a pic for you of it

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    Re: New to Pool School!!!

    Welcome to the forum.
    After reading through the thread I was just going to ask for photos

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