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    Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Hi Everyone, I am finally done leveling. We have clay so it was a backbreaking, hand-numbing, patience-challenging experience. I am glad I am done with it well almost because I still have to set the pavers flush to the ground.

    I tried searching and I couldn't find anything that can answer my question. I am thinking of putting sand, then foam board, and then gorilla pad. Is this overkill or not? I would like to save money as much as possible so I can do other projects. I already have the gorilla pad but I haven't bought the sand and the foam board yet.

    And a follow up question is if I use the foam board and gorilla pad, do I need to cut holes through them so the legs of the pool is in direct contact with the pavers?

    Thanks for all your help.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Hi there, if you've got your site level, then just gorilla pad and foam will give you a lovely base...
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by laceygirl View Post
    Hi there, if you've got your site level, then just gorilla pad and foam will give you a lovely base...
    Thanks laceygirl. I guess I have to cut holes in the foam and pad for the pavers? So far that's what I have seen when I did the search.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Yup, I believe that's what most do who have round pools... Mines rectangle so my set up will be very different....
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Hi there. We just finished set up of our 22X52. We priced the foam and honestly after everything else we have spent on saltwater pump and sand filter I just could not do it. We bought a gorilla pad already so we sprayed ground with round up and ant control, placed pavers ground level, placed black 6 mil plastic, then gorilla pad. Set up pool and it is fine. It is smooth and the Gorilla pad really helped smooth out the wrinkles and does offer comfort even though it doesn't look like much. I was on my knees in the pool smoothing out wrinkles and it was soft. If you want $200 foot comfort by all means...but the gorilla pad will do the job. I did not even buy another tarp this year...that's another $100. Instead I am putting the black plastic landscaping edging around the pool on the inside of the poles and then back filling with river pebbles and pavers.

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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Hi amanjenn, if my ground has some pebbles on it, will it be an issue with gorilla pad? I tried removing as much pebbles as I can but I don't think it's possible at all.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    That's why you'd probably benefit from foam if the budget will allow... I managed to find 30mm thick sheets of insulation foam board for $10.77 each... I only needed 11 so it was pretty good...
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by laceygirl View Post
    I managed to find 30mm thick sheets of insulation foam board for $10.77 each...
    Can you tell me the product info and where you bought it from? Thanks laceygirl.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    I'm down under in Australia Norwei, but I believe Lowes/Menards would be the place to get it from.... Shipping costs from Australia would make it prohibitive for you, but here's the website where I found mine....

    https://www.justritestore.com.au/hom...ysterene-30mm/

    Here's Lowes....

    http://www.lowes.com/Search=insulati...ulation+board#!

    Wow its $20 a sheet for you guys...
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by laceygirl View Post
    I'm down under in Australia Norwei(
    hahaha....stupid me...I didn't even check your location...thanks for the link
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    I went to Lowes to check out the foam board. The 1" is quite thick. I think I will just go with 3/4".
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Yes, that's totally doable...
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    We bought the green foam sheets from Lowe's, cost about$150, taped them together with gorilla tape,and then cut to the size of our pool. My husband and I think that it works great.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Remember, you want the top of your pavers level with the bottom of your pool. If you can match foam board and gorilla pad thickness to the thickness of your pavers, and your ground is good and level you won't have to bury the pavers. Just cut the foam board and gorilla pad around them.
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    oh no...i already buried the pavers today and bought the foam board...so what do I do now?

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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by norwei View Post
    oh no...i already buried the pavers today and bought the foam board...so what do I do now?
    Did you end up getting the 3/4" foam board? If so, just go get a set of 1" pavers and set them on top of the ones you buried and cut out the foam around them. I used 8" X 16" X 1" pavers from Lowes. They were less than $1.50 each. So it will only cost you $27 to level up with your pad. I don't see the ones I got on the website, but the 8" X 16" x 2" show actual thickness of 1.7". Even if the 1" ones are a full 1" that 1/4" won't make a difference to your pool but I bet they are more like 3/4" or 7/8".
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    i got the 1" for a discount

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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by norwei View Post
    i got the 1" for a discount
    I'd still go with the 1" blocks. Place them right on top and you'll be good to go. And post some pictures to show us your progress. Everyone here likes pictures!
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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    Thanks mac.dblues. Just out of curiosity though. What is going to happen if I just cut out holes in the foam to allow the legs to sit on top of the buried pavers? I am pretty sure that i have seen some posts here that shows pavers buried and then they put foam on top.


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    Re: Ground Protection - overkill or not?

    I would be worried that the frame would not be supporting the load it is designed to carry and might put added strain on the liner. It might also allow it to shift with water movement. These pools are designed as a frame/liner system, that's why they have to be level to hold up.

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