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    New Guy Here

    Hi everyone, my name is Tommy and I am a new pool owner. I got a FREE AGP that is only 5 years old from a friend of mine. I will do a build thread once I get the pics uploaded.
    In preperation for the build I purchased a new liner, skimmer, foam cove, and was initally sold on the perma salt system from a local store.
    Since I didnt know much about it I did some research and decided it was not the best option for my family, we will be using chlorine. We have two children and I want the pool to be safe period. Luckily I was able to return it.

    The pool is in and level. I have turned off the water since it is just below the skimmer. I still need to hook up the pump and filter and decided to hard plumb now instead of later.
    Also, due to rain delays I have not backfilled the 2 ft yet so I want to rough in the pipes for two additional returns. I also need to bond it (still researching this one).

    Anyways, I just ordered the Taylor Complete FAS-DPD Pool Water Test kit K-2006 on amazon.

    Should I test the plain water first or is there any known chemicals I can go ahead and plan to add.

    Any advice you have, seeing my plans, are welcomed.

    Thanks!
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Welcome to TFP!!!

    You certainly know that you need to add stabilizer (CYA) since there is none in tap water. You should also add some bleach in the evenings and brush it well to mix it to prevent algae from starting.

    The rest depend on test results.

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    Re: New Guy Here

    Thanks. Yes I read those and others pertaining to new pools, etc. Should I go ahead and add bleach before I get the pumps hooked up?
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Yes, that I why I said you should brush well, to mix the bleach in before the pump is running.

    You can also get the CYA in a sock and tie it to a noodle or something to have it start to dissolve as well.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Great, I will get that started today, Thanks
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Sorry, last question. How much bleach and CYA do you recommend I start with since I haven't tested the water yet? Thanks for the help. I will pay it forward.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Use PoolMath to determine how much you need.
    Instructions: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...ool-calculator

    I would add 30ppm of CYA and 2ppm of FC initially. As the CYA dissolves, then raise the FC level up corresponding to the FC/CYA Chart.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Is that 30 ppm 6.4 lbs? Checking my math.

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    Re: New Guy Here

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD View Post
    Is that 30 ppm 6.4 lbs? Checking my math.

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    Re: New Guy Here

    Sounds like a lot for a sock. Lol

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    Re: New Guy Here

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD View Post
    Sounds like a lot for a sock. Lol

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    Use two, then. Hang the extra in front of a return.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    I can get about 2 pounds in a sock at once, maybe a touch more. But it dissolves in about 2-4 hrs when hanging in front of a return and squeezing it every once and while.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    No harm in rounding up either .... does not have to be exact. You eventually want to be between 30-50ppm. So if you find 4 lb buckets, just go ahead and add 8 pounds which should take you to around 37ppm.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    Remember I have not hooked up plumbing yet. Should I wait and do that first?

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    Re: New Guy Here

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyD View Post
    Remember I have not hooked up plumbing yet. Should I wait and do that first?

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    Yes. You want water circulation whenever you're adding chemicals so they mix well. Your arms will fall off if you try to brush continuously to keep things moving as long as it takes CYA to dissolve.
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    Re: New Guy Here

    We installed a used pool last year and I love it. Good luck. You are in the right place for some amazing expert advice!


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