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    Help! I have metals

    Hey guys...been noticing my liner had a yellowish tint in spots that I tought was fading due to suggested pool store chemicals added months ago. Been doing BBB for months now. Just did the vitamin C test and plain as day. Was just in the must of raising my CYA from 30-40 with sock method this morning. Here's my numbers. What should I do?

    FC 5.0
    CC - 0
    PH 7.7
    TA - 100
    CH - 125
    CYA - 30

    Just put the cya sock in front of return,brushed walls and was about to vacum when I decided to to the Vit C test.....rainy here today and next few days. What's the best sequesturant? Need Step by step directions and hold my hand!
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Start by reading this: http://www.troublefreepool.com/conte...d-metal-stains
    And then ask specific questions as needed.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    What's the best way to bring chlorine down? I know to use muriatic acid to lower ph. Have that. Should I discontinue the stabilizer treatment? Best stuff to buy?
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Let the chlorine come down on it's own. Doesn't matter about the stabilizer.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Adding the CYA should not affect anything. Leave it in or take it out. Does not matter.
    Are you planning to do the AA treatment?
    If so, let the FC drop due to the sun.
    The article lists the type of recommended sequestrant. And in the AA instructions tell you what to buy for that.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Yes I plan on doing AA. Is Dry Acid from Leslie's the same thing? I'm passing by there today and can pick some up. I just don't trust them and wanna make sure I'm getting the right stuff.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    No. Dry acid lowers pH.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    That's what I thought but when I did a search on their site dry acid came up.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    At Leslie's all I see is stuff called metal free

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    Re: Help! I have metals

    So, find a better store ... the AA instructions even have links to where to buy the ascorbic acid.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Found some Called Stain Remover (concentrated ascorbic acid compound for removal of stains)

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    $50.... : (

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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Fussed about price. Dude told me I could use an orange peel

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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Update on the AA treatment. Got FC down to 1, ph to 7.2. Added 2 lbs AA. Totally shocked how fast the stains started disappearing before my eyes. Let water circulate for 1/2 hr. Still had a few stains. Added another 2 lbs....liner looks brand new again!!! Will let filter run over night and begin slowly bringing FC back up....keeping fingers crossed the stains don't come back. Have more AA on order!
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Remember you need to use a sequestrant to prevent the stains from reappearing.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Ya know, I just realized that. Went back and read the treatment recommendations. I kept scratching my head thinking, what am I missing here....will see if I can find some tomorrow. I was running my filter overnight tonight. Do I need to do that or wait until I add the squestrant tomorrow?
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Added Sparkle Conquest sequesturant ... Contrary to what our directions say here, they bottle says after 24 hrs backwash and rinse filter...should I or shouldn't i?
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Woke up to a cloudy pool!! Back washed per sparkle conquest directions....need to get FC and ph back up. What do I do??.
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    If PH is still 7.2 don't worry about it for now. I think it's okay to slowly add enough chlorine to reach your "min" - just don't slam. Can you test and add chlorine hourly to reach your "min" FC level?
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Got ph down to 7.2 before AA treatment, now it looks lower than 7.0 (lowest # on Taylor k). Yes I have baking soda, borax, bleach

    FC 0
    CC 0
    PH 6 something .
    TA 75
    CH 100
    CYA 45

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    Should I raise PH FIRST to 7.2?
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    Re: Help! I have metals

    Sure but target 7.0 and do it in small doses... Like to the chlorine.
    Helpful links: Pool School; CYA/Chlorine Chart
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