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    Newbie - need some help

    Hi All,

    I am new, but i read a lot here and getting smarter by the minute. Thanks you!

    I do have a question about how to level my yard.

    I bought an Intex 18X9X52, i am wondering if i can level the ground by putting cement/pavement blocks on top of it?
    the ground is already close to being leveled, I need to remove the grass {i assume i'll do it with a sod cutter}, i read people adding sand on top, i don't want to go that road and i am thinking of blocks.

    What do you think?

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    I'm thinking you still need to lay a level down and or a laser/water level before you assume the ground is level. It may look it but 9 chances out of 10, it is not level and you'll have to remove the high side. Using pavers as a base is not such a great idea. The liner is going to sink into the creases and could tear from the blocks. You really need a sand and or soft base to protect the liner. A lot of people have used foam insulation boards from Lowes and or Home Depot.

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    I have the exact same pool.... I'll be tuning in to your build... Pulling up a chair...
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    Welcome to TFP!

    You are going to have to use either sand or extruded foam insulation board under your pool.

    If your yard looks level, it probably isn't. A 4' level with a straight 10' 2x4 will show you this. Once you have seen how much your yard slopes, you can start at the lowest spot and level to that. Please don't make the mistake of thinking you can fill in the low with soil from the high, it won't work. Within a weeks time of the pool sitting on it, your fill area will have slumped, taking your pool out of level, and possibly causing it to collapse.
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    Re: Newbie - need some help

    Ok here we go.

    As posted so many times on this site i got a sot cutter and i am starting to work...

    How do i attach pictures?

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    15'x48" 4500 gallon Intex pool, buried 1.5 ft. Pac-Fab Dynamo 3/4 hp pump. Hayward S180T sand filter, bought used. Taylor K-2006 test kit. Rocket mass heater based wood fired pool heater.

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    Thanks

    Here we go


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    Re: Newbie - need some help

    Part 1 is done


    Most of the area is leveled except for one part which is low ~2inch
    What do i do? do i need to lower everything because of that?

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    Yes, that would be the way to go. As stated in the other reply, using fill will only cause problems. I made that mistake the first time I set up our pool. Pain in the back, yes, but worth it with a pool that stays where you want it.
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    Looking good! If you get a minute after playing in the dirt tonight, update your profile with your location and your signature with your new pool info... and then read pool school!
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    Re: Newbie - need some help

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaniv View Post
    Part 1 is done


    Most of the area is leveled except for one part which is low ~2inch
    What do i do? do i need to lower everything because of that?
    Sadly, yes. Unless you have access to a power tamper and some base rock.
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    The size of the footprint you will need, and this is from outside leg to outside leg, and end leg to end leg.... 6.05cm x 3.30cm so 238 inches x 130 inches....
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    As Richard posted... Yes, you need to go off that low point and remove dirt down to it. You just can't build up a pool and expect it to hold under thousands of lbs of pressure (weight). Good Luck! The foundation is the most crucial and toughest job!
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    I've decided to go with railway sleepers underneath the same pool.... They're 200mm across and 75mm thick..... This pool can hold 17200 litres, therefore it will weight 17 tonnes.....
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    Re: Newbie - need some help

    Most of the area is leveled except for one part which is low ~2inch
    What do i do? do i need to lower everything because of tha
    You can fill that area if you do it correctly. The fill material can not be the dirt you scraped off and it can not be sand which will wash away.

    Most quarries make a product called "screening" (or something like that) it is essentially rock dust with small rocks in it not bigger than 1/4 inch. That is easily compacted, will not compact further and, if you do it carefully, will not "wash out" underneath your pool.
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    Re: Newbie - need some help

    I did the best i can do with leveling the ground i think it is OK now i am adding the sand


    and I also got the styrofoam (pink) that you recommend here



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    Place some kind of barrier around the bottom edge of your pool so the sand cannot wash out.

    Your surrounding land is flat enough that you are likely ok but sand is a poor choice for most people as it so readily erodes out from underneath the pool if there is much slope at all.
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    GFCI outlet is ready, also the place for the heater and pump is done.
    Next step is to hard wire the pool's plumbing. (And paint the wall )

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    Quote Originally Posted by duraleigh View Post
    Place some kind of barrier around the bottom edge of your pool so the sand cannot wash out.

    Your surrounding land is flat enough that you are likely ok but sand is a poor choice for most people as it so readily erodes out from underneath the pool if there is much slope at all.
    Ohhh ok, Thanks for that
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    Its coming along... Nice job....
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