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    Premixing CYA

    Would there be any issues with mixing CYA with water into a 5 gallon bucket so you don't have to wait a long time for it to dissolve in your pool? Just wondering if you can make your own liquid CYA for future use.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Others on the forum have tried it and report back that it doesn't mix well at all and there is little to be gained in pre-mix.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    CYA will never dissolve in a bucket.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Thank you both
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion View Post
    CYA will never dissolve in a bucket.
    I'll attest to that. I tried it, complete waste of time.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Been there done that.

    I wonder if it is a water temperature or saturation related thing.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Saturation, some minuscule amount does dissolve, and then the water is saturated.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    I wold suppose that like so many other solutions, you could supersaturate by using heat, but how high a heat? Not worth trying!
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Heat helps more dissolve, but still not enough to be useful.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion View Post
    Saturation, some minuscule amount does dissolve, and then the water is saturated.
    ^^^ This. Been there done that. Waste of time.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    The Natural Chemistry® Instant Pool Water Conditioner product is a slurry of sodium cyanurate. That is made from Cyanuric Acid by adding Lye (sodium hydroxide) to it. This isn't as easy as it sounds so I wouldn't recommend trying to do this yourself.
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    Re: Premixing CYA

    Isn't Liquid CYA available at the pool store? something in cocentrated form that you would add water to?

    Pool match makes reference to a liquid?

    I hate dealing with the granular.
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    Premixing CYA

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockstead View Post
    Isn't Liquid CYA available at the pool store? something in cocentrated form that you would add water to?

    Pool match makes reference to a liquid?

    I hate dealing with the granular.
    Yes you can get liquid stabilizer at the pool store or online, but it is a little pricey IMO.
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