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    Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    I live in the Scottsdale, AZ area and am wanting to get the forum's feedback on a bid for a new pool.

    The spec's are:
    • Perimeter 94'
    • Surface area 435 sq ft
    • Depth 3'6"-5'0"
    • Gallons 13866
    • Step footage 39'
    • Bench footage 16'
    • Max. dimensions 33' x 14


    The backyard has a stuccoed wall which is 7' tall. The geometry of the lot can be seen from the bird's eye photo. We are planning on having travertine (16"x24") pavers in Crema. 12"x12" bullnose travertine coping with a tiled knife edge end. Three sheet flow water features coming off of the second, taller wall. Baja entry with a 6' sun shelf, followed by a couple of final entry steps.



    The pool will use:
    Paramount PV3 In Floor Cleaning and MDX3 Drain system
    * lifetime warranty on nozzles, 99% cleaning guarantee, infinite position nozzle with no moving parts
    Pentair IntelliFlo VS PLUS Variable Speed
    Pentair Clean & Clear 520 Cartridge filter
    Pentair IntelliBrite White LED (2 white lights facing away from the house)
    Pentair EasyTouch 4P Automation System w/Wireless Remote pool control (iPhone/iPad maybe later)
    Plumbing options for future: solar, salt and heater
    Lifetime structural warranty on pool shell, 2 year on all workmanship and material

    The PB uses Pentair equipment. Does anyone recommend something else?


    Here are some construction details for the pool from the vendor's bid:

    Plumbing
    • Filter run: Pool-16'
    • (1) Auto water leveler with vacuum breaker to meet codes
    • (1) Pool skimmer
    • ** *Paramount PV3 In Floor Cleaning and circulation system
    • Paramount MDX3 Drain in pool with SDX side wall safety relief suction
    • Schedule 40 plumbing throughout pool
    • (3) Filtration returns to bypass in floor cleaning system


    Steel Reinforcement
    • #3-12" o.c., 6" o.c. at coves and radii and stress points
    • 4 bars, 3# continuous in bond beam around perimeter of pool


    Electric
    • Approx (31) feet rigid conduit from panel to equipment to lite switch
    • (2) Pentair IntelliBrite White LED Lights In Pool
    • Pentair EasyTouch 4P Automation System w/Wireless Remote
    • Halo Bonding Around Perimeter Of Pool Per City Code


    Shotcrete
    • Pneumatically applied
    • Steps and benches to be installed per plan
    • Minimum 6" thickness in walls and floors, 8" in coves and stress areas
    • 3000 PSI Concrete curing to 3200 PSI in 7 days and 3500-3700 psi
    • ** *WIRESto be run prior to shotcrete application to ensure all corners are s
    • Fibermesh to be used in shotcrete mix to help prevent shrinkage cracks














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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    I am not a Pool Builder so cannot comment realistically on the equipment any better than you.

    I will say that the in-floor cleaning systems have had many, many negative reports on this forum.......probably more than any piece of equipment that people install.

    Based on what I have read for 7 years on this forum, I simply would never have one.
    Dave S.
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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Can't comment on equipment but love the lines and design of the pool. Beautiful!


    In Ground 15X27 80 ft perimeter; 3'6 to 5' depth; 9600 gallons; 2 skimmers; 6 returns; Jandy VSP; 2 pool LED lights; 1 spa pool light; pebble tech aqua blue, North Texas build complete April 2014

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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    I like the very modern design and look of your design photos. If your home decor has a modern flair to it this will blend in nicely.

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    Hole dug, piping done and iron work done

    Have some photos of the Hole dug, piping done and iron work done. There was no HARD DIG and the excavation took only 1 1/2 days, equipment & piping 1 day & iron work 3/4 day. Electrical next. Here's some photos:































    Enjoy.

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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    I love the design of your pool. We are also opting for an in-floor cleaner. I will be interested to see how you are liking yours. It seems a lot of the negative comments were from years ago; it's hard to find any recent feedback. Two PBs I've talked to liked them and stand behind them. I guess most people don't opt for them b/c of price differential between in-ground and robots. Keep us posted!
    21k gal IG, SWG, WetEdge Satin Matrix Antigua in pool, Primera Stone Tahoe Coast in spa, 430 sq ft cartridge filter, 2.7 HP variable speed pump, infloor cleaner

    Our build:
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...c-Houston-pool

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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Looks like a great project. Following the build. If I was to change anything would be the lights from white LED to color LED. Not familiar with the cleaning system. Best of luck with the build.

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    revised plans

    Here's a revised pool & landscaping plan:


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    Shotcrete finished

    Took about 4-5 hours & the shotcrete is done.

















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    Walls are going up & tiling in progress

    Walls are going up & tiling in progress:










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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    very nice! love the travertine...keep pics coming
    18x36 vinyl / sport pool 5.5' deep / 1.5hp Tri-Star 2spd / Hayward c3030 325 sqft cartridge / ~15k gal / TF100

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    Some up-to-date photos of progress on pool and backyard hardscape/landscape

    Some up-to-date photos of progress on pool and backyard hardscape/landscape:










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    Re: Some up-to-date photos of progress on pool and backyard hardscape/landscape

    Hi,
    I live around the corner from you,
    Great design,
    Other then the 3 months to do it, MB did a fine job.
    I personally would have put a little more steel in being that close to house and walls, but just added insurance.
    Only because I am very picky did this stand out.
    The back walls shouldn't be connected, and looks like the back wall should be a little longer past the front wall. That separation adds interest and shadow that you miss with them connected.
    I think the design is a good look, but they missed that little point on their build.
    Hope it stays warm for a bit longer so you can enjoy it.

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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by aprillh View Post
    I love the design of your pool. We are also opting for an in-floor cleaner. I will be interested to see how you are liking yours. It seems a lot of the negative comments were from years ago; it's hard to find any recent feedback. Two PBs I've talked to liked them and stand behind them. I guess most people don't opt for them b/c of price differential between in-ground and robots. Keep us posted!
    I think someone with positive experience needs to write a review on the in-floor cleaning system. Like you I've found many older negative reviews. We are close to finalizing our pool plans and one of the pool builders insists they are worth every penny and has 100's of happy customers we can speak to. He indicates they place the Paramount system in almost all installs these days.
    2015 Pool Build --> HERE IG 19'x47' w/ 7'x7' in pool spa; 3'6"-8' deep.
    Pentair 520 Filter, IntelliFlow VS XF Pump, IntelliChlor IC60 SWG, IntelliBrite/GloBrite LEDs, IntelliTouch w/Screenlogic2. 400K BTU heater. A&A G4V in-floor cleaning system. WetEdge Prism Matrix Pebble finish. TechoBloc Pavers and Coping.
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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Looks nice and good progress!
    Chris - aka cwescapexlt4x4
    (Build 8/26/14 - 10/17/14) in-ground Presidential Pools 15K gallon salt water pool Pentair Inteiliflo pump, Regal Blue Pebble, Clean & Clear filter, in-floor cleaning,
    LED light, 3' sheer spill, 2 benches, large Baja step. / Pergola by Booth Built 19W x 14D // Outdoor Kitchen, W/Primo grill and BBQ Coach kit for the island.

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    Water in and ready for swimming.

    Water in and ready for swimming.




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    Some in-progress landscaping. Solar is installed see the solar thread by me in TFP.

    Some in-progress landscaping. Solar is installed see the solar thread by me in TFP.



    Lime tree already has fruit for gin & tonics!







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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Gorgeous! I may have missed it but what is the finish of your pool? Plaster, pebble? If pebble, what color? It is stunning.
    21k gal IG, SWG, WetEdge Satin Matrix Antigua in pool, Primera Stone Tahoe Coast in spa, 430 sq ft cartridge filter, 2.7 HP variable speed pump, infloor cleaner

    Our build:
    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...c-Houston-pool

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    Re: Please give me your feedback on a pool build & equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by aprillh View Post
    Gorgeous! I may have missed it but what is the finish of your pool? Plaster, pebble? If pebble, what color? It is stunning.
    Pebble Sheen Aqua Blue

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