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    Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    Hello. Since we replaced our old cartridge filter with a DE filter I have way too much suction when I attempt to vacuum. The vacuum head attaches itself to the pool floor and won't budge and the hose collapses. I have to run to the skimmer and pull the hose out. Can anyone tell from the photo if the bottom drain valve is closed?

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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    What is the black hose attached to the ball valve? Its closed, whatever it is.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    Hmmm...I can't remember. I will have to wait and ask dear hubby when he gets home from work.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    You only have one suction line entering the pump. So your floor would likely be plumbed into your skimmer. Do you have 2 holes in the skimmer? a skimmer plate for vacuuming may help either way.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    Yes, there are 2 holes in the skimmer, but only one of them has suction.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    The black hose is a waste line for if the pool gets too full from rain etc.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    The other hole likely is connected to the floor. Do you have a float diverter under the basket? That and a skimmer plate over the basket would get you up and running.
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    No, there isn't anything under the basket. I'll have to "google" a float diverter, I don't know what it is. So the skimmer plate goes on top of the basket? What holds it down? Does it matter that the hole connected to the floor has no suction?

    Amended: I googled the float diverter...and I have one! I never knew what it was for, as it wasn't in the skimmer when we purchased our house.

    So, if I put the diverter in, then the basket, then a skimmer plate on top of the basket I should be able to vacuum?
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    Re: Help! Too much suction when vacuuming!

    Right. The diverter should have a flap that will force some of the suction from the floor (without it you likely get none from the floor). So that will reduce the suction from the skimmer. The plate will allow you to hook up the vacuum hose since the diverter and basket are in the way. It is held on by the suction.

    You will just have to play with the diverter flap to reduce the suction for the vacuum enough to not get stuck.
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