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    First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    We had our above ground oval 18x33 pool installed late in the season last summer, this summer will be our first full season. at the time we used the ladder since our deck wasn't built yet. Our deck was built and we will be using the wedding cake stairs I have read multiple threads on how to hold them down, so I think I am going to buy the plastic weights with sand in them put them in those vacume sealed bags to hold them down, now the stairs there are big holes on the side of them for circulating water, do you think I should make some on the top of the steps as well?
    Also it came with a matt to put down under the steps, should I avoid this, after all the reading it seems like it would be a huge algae attraction, or is it needed to protect the liner?

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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Very interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on this as well. We, too are looking to purchase steps for our pool, to allow easier entry for my 93 yr old Grandmother. We cant have anything that is too steep and thought the Majestic (8000) model by Innovoplas would serve our purpose. I haven't been able to source a pad for under the steps, but would welcome any insight as to whether it is even required. the biggest challenge we face is trying to find a supplier that can ship to our address in Canada, or without paying more for shipping costs than the cost of the steps themselves Our pool is a 12x22x52" Intex style pool (Bestway brand). Sorry to piggyback on your thread fitness4life75. I hope you don't mind

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    First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    I wouldn't put any holes on the step itself. Maybe you could put some on the riser part of the step and on the sides. Some people don't have any algae problems with that type of steps and I've read some that do.
    As for the pad I would use it. I have just a ladder with a pad to protect the liner and I've never had a problem with algae from the pad.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    has anyone with steps who IS NOT using a pad had any significant liner wear? im looking at steps too.

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    I have the Majestic (8000) and haven't had any trouble with the steps lifting up. One of the steps has a cut out with plastic container that we filled with gravel. That and attaching the railing to the deck has kept ours from moving around. I've never had any algae problems. I haven't used a mat under them either. I've been very pleased with mine.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    I had the wedding cake steps in my old pool and on 2 occasions, they wore the print off my liners but you'd also have to factor in at least 4 kids-6 kids any given day and a dog that loved to swim. Our pool was the local watering hole and believe me, the other kids had pools at their house too but they liked ours because you could see the bottom! I actually ended up tying the steps off to a deck post under the deck and that kept it from moving. Before that, it would slide back and forth.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Quote Originally Posted by linda1 View Post
    I have the Majestic (8000) and haven't had any trouble with the steps lifting up. One of the steps has a cut out with plastic container that we filled with gravel. That and attaching the railing to the deck has kept ours from moving around. I've never had any algae problems. I haven't used a mat under them either. I've been very pleased with mine.
    Thank you so much for the post, and especially for the pic. Most pics I have seen always make the steps look so much larger due to the distortion (from being submerged in) the water. We had looked at another specific model at a pool supplier near here, and seeing them in person was a far cry different that the pics we had seen online of the same model.

    As for the pad, I was more concerned with wear and the potential for subsequent tears/ leaks. I may do a little more research on the pad idea before we install the steps. I would rather spend hours cleaning (algae) than another thousand dollars or so to replace my pool. The few reviews comparing our brand of pool to Intex brand seem to indicate that the liner is not of the same weight or quality, so want to take whatever steps necessary to protect our investment.

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    5 years on my pool------wedding cake steps--------no rips, no tears, no errors! Drilled extra holes in both sides of mine too. A bunch!
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    We have the majestic with the colored light kit. Highly recommend. Got used off craigslist super cheap! Definitely put the pad underneath, we have always used that and never any algae issues.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Thank you so much for everyone's replies!! I will use the pad under my steps.
    Do you think 50lbs weights will be enough to hold down the steps? My pool company first stairs they gave me were HUGE, so I switched them out to a nicer smaller set with a single bar instead of two bars.
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    First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    50 lbs might be enough. You'll just have to try and see. 😎
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Quote Originally Posted by ariel68 View Post
    Thank you so much for the post, and especially for the pic. Most pics I have seen always make the steps look so much larger due to the distortion (from being submerged in) the water. We had looked at another specific model at a pool supplier near here, and seeing them in person was a far cry different that the pics we had seen online of the same model.

    As for the pad, I was more concerned with wear and the potential for subsequent tears/ leaks. I may do a little more research on the pad idea before we install the steps. I would rather spend hours cleaning (algae) than another thousand dollars or so to replace my pool. The few reviews comparing our brand of pool to Intex brand seem to indicate that the liner is not of the same weight or quality, so want to take whatever steps necessary to protect our investment.
    You just answered your own question about the pad. I also have wedding cake steps and use a pad under them. Once i had everything in place and the steps where i wanted them and secured to the deck i trimmed my pad to the radius of my bottom step so there was not much flapping around down there. I also drilled more hole in the sides but i wish i had drilled more, i do get some alge build up under them and i have to push my hose in the holes to blow them out about twice a summer. My steps are Lumi-o and i think they are made in Canada.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Thanks for the pic johnnysnok. Exactly the steps we are looking to purchase. Now if I can justify the shipping costs, as we cant seem to find anyone willing to ship to us within Canada for less than 300.00 (and up). None of the local pool supply companies within (3 hr) driving distance seem to carry this model as regular stock, so even if we order from a "local" company, we would still incur the freight charges to get it to their distribution center. We do have the option of ordering online (from Wal-Mart in US for example) and driving the 2 hrs across the border to pick them up, but I am just so darn lazy and would much prefer have them shipped to our home. Right now, tho the steps re the least of our worries. I am the point of giving up and going back the old blow up ring style pool if we cant solve our heater dilemnas

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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Calling Lumi-o might be worth a try, they are made in Canada.

    http://www.lumi-o.com/index.php?cont...irs&lang=en-CA
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    The water in these pics sure looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewPoolOwner2014 View Post
    The water in these pics sure looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey View Post
    They follow TFPC and own the TF100!
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Hi Linda!

    I just put in an oval 18x33 above ground pool and had a deck put around it. I liked the Majestic 8000 steps (as you have), but I'm a bit stumped on how to attached the railing to the deck 'attractively'.

    Would you mind posting another picture of your stairs where the railing support is attached to the deck? In my case, the deck is below the metal rim of the pool, so there's a gap there of ~4" that I'd have to make up for. I wish they had a more arched support available...you know, one that would work perfectly for my exact situation!

    Thanks for any advice you might have...

    Steve

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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Steve, it's dark out now, and this is the only picture I have that shows how it was attached. It isn't pretty. My husband just cut a piece of 2x4 and screwed that to the deck and then screwed the arm of the railing to the 2x4.
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    Re: First Time pool owner - wedding cake steps questions

    Maybe you can do something similar for your situation as I did?
    The link to my fix is below.

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...m-fix-write-up
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