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    Foam Bottom?

    I am having my 24 foot round pool installed next Friday and am torn whether to use foam on floor rather then sand. One, is 1 inch rigid foam ok to use? I can not find 1 1/2", only 2" and that is 34.00 a sheet. The 1 inch is 17.00. Two is tongue and groove better or square edge? My thoughts on foam is better insulation from the cold ground and smoother floor. Is this true? Thanks for any help asap please as I need to order my foam cove in before next Friday. Is wall foam worth the $$$?
    Pool Size: 24' Lomart Whispering Wind II 13000 gallons
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Yes, buy the foam coving.... Lots of people on here sing its praises... And a lot of AGP owners are switching to extruded foam for underneath their pools... I haven't read a bad thing about having foam under the pool yet....
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    The foam bottom is personal preference. I don't have it and my floor is fine. Don't waste your money on the wall foam. It can actually increase the risk of a puncture to the liner. Imagine a piece of paper on a soft surface. It would be easy to push a pencil tip through the paper. Now take a piece of paper and place it on a table. Hard to push the pencil tip through it.
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    I've never thought of that about wall foam Jeff... thank you for the insight... I've seen people using wall foam and I wondered what for....
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Thanks for the quick responses. I am one that needs a warm pool to enjoy and we went bigger per the wifey and I am concerned how much more trouble it will be to get it and keep it warm. I was thinking the foam bottom would help with that.
    Pool Size: 24' Lomart Whispering Wind II 13000 gallons
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Make sure you've got a good solar cover, that will help retain the heat in the water over night...
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    Best thing to keep the heat in the pool is a solar cover. It helps greatly with losing heat at night.

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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    jinx jeff...
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Yeah I plan on one of those as well. Even though they are a pain do deal with by yourself. Do you all feel better about clear over blue as far as performance?

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    Back to the bottom of pool, if I stick with them using sand do you all still say foam cove over sand with the sand bottom?
    Pool Size: 24' Lomart Whispering Wind II 13000 gallons
    Pool Type: Aboveground
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    Foam Bottom?

    They are all about the same. I have a clear one. I cut mine in half so it's more user friendly. I use solar saddles hung over the side of the pool to store it.
    Yes get the foam cove. I have it and recommend it.
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    I've always wondered if clear was better than blue... And I've wondered why there are not many black solar covers for pools......
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    go with the foam cove ... for kicks and giggles you can try to make an even cove around part of your pool with sand ... and then you will thank yourself that you got the foam cove!

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    I've been thinking about a solar cover ... so waiting for the rest of this conversation ... I really really want to swim in my "big" birthday coming up!
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Foam cove it is. Lastly if sticking with sand Gorilla bottom, Armor Shield are these worth the money ? Sorry for all these questions, just nervous about doing the right thing
    Pool Size: 24' Lomart Whispering Wind II 13000 gallons
    Pool Type: Aboveground
    Pump:Hayward 1 1/2 HP Power Flo Matrix 2 Speed
    Filter: Hayward S230T 250lb Sand Filter

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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    April get yourself a solar cover. You won't regret it.
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Unless you have nut grass or roots, rocks you don't need a gorilla pad. No comfort from them as they are pretty thin. You'll be fine with just sand if you don't have any of the above problems.
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    Foam Bottom?

    The key with the solar cover is heat retention at night and windy days.
    Leave it on when it's cloudy during the day. When you have a nice warm sunny day, little wind, air temp warmer than pool water temp, you'll get more heating from the sun with the cover off.
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    In my opinion the foam floor is the way to go. The 3/4" or 1" will be fine. The foam cove is great. No worry about nutgrass or other grasses. Very comfortable.
    Gerry
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    For making a pool warm, we have had these solar panels for 5 years now, worth every penny, work great! http://www.solardirect.com/pool_heat...ng/premium.htm

    Regarding the foam bottom, we just removed our liner to soaking wet sand and rust along the edge of the wall where the wet sand butted up. I wonder if we had a foam bottom it would prevent the constant moisture trap. Hmmmm.
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    Shelly it could have been a leaking liner that caused the moisture. If you have SWG that would make it worse. We really like the foam floor.
    Gerry
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    Re: Foam Bottom?

    If I could do it again I would have put a foam bottom in. We brought in a lot of sand, but things still migrate up thru it and I need to get the aluminum baseball bat out to smooth out the bumps. The foam cove yes too and a good solar cover to keep out the dirt when not swimming, help with evaporation & keep the heat in during the night...
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