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    Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Hello everyone,

    Can anyone help me identify these parts? They are on the return jets on my pool's stairway. The mechanism on top of the stairs is broken, and has been since we bought the house so I'm interested in repairing/replacing as much as possible, but I have not been able to figure out who made them, how they work, or what to replace/repair.

    Thanks so very much.

    Becky

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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    I just updated my signature, thanks!
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Welcome to TFP!

    Have you checked to see if there are any part #s engraved in the plastic? Sometimes they can be very hard to see.
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Or..

    If you can't identify the actual parts, could someone please tell me what they're called so that I can perform a decent search for them. I've tried:
    Return jet assembly
    Water body assembly
    And many, many different combinations of words.

    Is there an official name for return jets that are connected to an air pipe that you can adjust the amount of air that goes in? This is a swimming pool, not a spa.

    Thank you again, I've had lots of success in maintaining all the components of my pool, but this one has me lost.

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    Welcome to TFP!

    Have you checked to see if there are any part #s engraved in the plastic? Sometimes they can be very hard to see.
    Thank you, I'll check that carefully.
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    After doing some more looking around I think it may be made by Jacuzzi. Can you take another photo of the beige plastic insert shown in the photo with the metal ring? I would like to see the other side of the nozzle.

    The mechanism on top of the stairs is broken
    In addition to the photos you posted? I'm assuming you may have some sort of control valve? If yes, please post that too.
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    They look like a venturi jet (that's a jet which has an air feed). venturi effect sucks the air in with the water.

    http://www.inyopools.com/pool_parts_..._fittings.aspx

    It looks similar, but not the same. I'll look some more (I'm not an expert, I just enjoy searching for things)

    Are you looking for the air feed adjustment? (I'm sure there is a proper name, but that's my name for it).
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Here is the flip side of the nozzle and ring. I suspect that the nozzle may have two parts, but I'm unable to separate it.

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    I'll take a picture of the top where the controls are SUPPOSED to be, but has been broken off, and I put in a rubber plug.

    Thanks again. mrcarcrazy, I will search further for venturi jets. I think I have, but I'll keep trying! Thank you!

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    http://www.spacare.com/JacuzziJetHTC...Fc9AMgodUyoAGw

    Looks really really similar.

    I guess they used spa jets for your returns...
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Quote Originally Posted by mrcarcrazy View Post
    They look like a venturi jet (that's a jet which has an air feed). venturi effect sucks the air in with the water.

    http://www.inyopools.com/pool_parts_..._fittings.aspx

    It looks similar, but not the same. I'll look some more (I'm not an expert, I just enjoy searching for things)

    Are you looking for the air feed adjustment? (I'm sure there is a proper name, but that's my name for it).
    It is similar, but the one on my pool seems to have the air intake attached to the exterior bulkhead fitting. That appears to make it impossible to "screw" out or repair without tearing into or replacing the fiberglass stairs.

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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Yeah, they are intended to be rebuild-able without complete removal. Do you have a picture of the part that sticks out the top of the stairs? I thought this part would be listed in connection with the jet itself..but it doesn't seem to be. So I'm looking.

    Or, do you know how big the hole on the top of the stairs is?
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    I don't, yet. I will get one today when I get home from work. It's broken, so I don't know how much we'll be able to tell, but it looks like 1/2" pvc.
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    ok. And just to make sure I'm not losing my mind. It's in the air, not under water?

    If so, I think you'll be able to replace it with basically any 1/2'' air control valve

    Josh is really good at this stuff, so I'll shut up for now. Based on his prev. posts Jacuzzi has changed hands a few times and this makes parts searching rather challenging. however you may be able to retrofit something with a little ingenuity.
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    Equipment: Whisperflo 2hp pump, Pentair 30" sand filter, Pentair Mastertemp 400k BTU heater, 1hp Whisperflo for waterfalls, and a blower for spa floor

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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    How does this look for a match?

    SPAJET1.jpg

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    http://www.spacare.com/JacuzziJetHTC...Fc9AMgodUyoAGw

    Looks really really similar.

    I guess they used spa jets for your returns...
    That one does look pretty close however I was able to find a parts diagram for it and it I don't see where it uses is screws. It looks like all of the plastic parts are threaded without the use of screws.
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    Dang, you win. Yours def looks closer than mine.

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    Equipment: Whisperflo 2hp pump, Pentair 30" sand filter, Pentair Mastertemp 400k BTU heater, 1hp Whisperflo for waterfalls, and a blower for spa floor

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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Actually it looks really close. If I could remove it, I could replace it with something that did work, or even a non-venturi return. The screws only hold the metal face plate onto the assembly. I'd love to see that parts diagram. Your link doesn't seem to lead to the part, though?

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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    This one looks the most like it, I think!

    http://www.spacare.com/JacuzziCPandWJetBody.aspx

    Whoo hoo!! It's a start! I'd love to know how to remove it safely. Is there a special tool you put inside something like that to screw it out?
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    This one looks the most like it, I think!

    http://www.spacare.com/JacuzziCPandWJetBody.aspx

    Whoo hoo!! It's a start! I'd love to know how to remove it safely. Is there a special tool you put inside something like that to screw it out?
    I'll check to see if I have parts diagram I scan for that. I'll do some digging.
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    Thank you so much Josh. This really helps me.

    Becky
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    Re: Help identifying these return jets and fittings

    And now...

    I would like to replace these with either just plain pool jets or working They are in the stairs, and I can't see how to remove them. Is there somewhere I can find how these are constructed inside the stairs? When I look down the little venturi hole in the top, I see what looks like concrete poured inside the stairs. I'm not sure that they can be replaced without replacing the stairs. Any advice would be really helpful

    We just had the liner replaced and the pool just looks so pretty, thanks to all the good advice I read on these forums.

    Yikes!
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