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    We purchased a 30' x 54" deep round above ground pool. Now I'm working on designing the deck before I go to the county office and apply for pool and deck permit. I have to give them all decks plans before I can start anything this includes footing locations.
    My question is how should I place footings next to the pool? I would like to run the headers parallel with pool sections and place the footings next to each upright. Is this is a good solution? If Yes how many uprights a 30' diameter pool have?
    Can anyone here help me with the plans?
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    Also do any of you recommend the Gorilla pad instead of sand?
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

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    Also do any of you recommend the Gorilla pad instead of sand?
    You will need sand for the bottom regardless if you use the gorilla pad or not.
    As for the gorilla pad, you won't gain any comfort from it. It's use is for protection from roots, nut grass, rocks and such that could puncture the liner. 😎
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I had foam from Home Depot under my previous pool and this one has the Gorilla Pad. I definitely prefer foam and will use it in the future. Lots of conversation on the forum about using it. I do not have a deck so can't help you there. Good luck!
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    When I have a second look at the gorilla pad it looks like it is very thin. So basically the ground will have to be perfectly flat. I think I will just use the sand.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    For the deck try Menards. You can purchase plans there so everything is already designed with quantities for everything you need. Or try their online deck design software for pools, it's pretty cool and in depth, it might help a lot.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I used home depot designer before. The thing is it adds a lot of things that I will not use. I will give it a try and see how it is. The problem is I don't know how many sections my pool gonna have. I would like to run the headers parallel to each section.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I would go to the local govt website and see if they have the pool and deck codes online or just go to the building department and ask. The codes will specify the way you need to build like how big and deep for the footings, the spans you can do depending on lumber size, railing heights, stairs, etc.
    I found that the deck programs were not much help for a pool deck. The footing and frame design was more complex than what the programs were capable of. Maybe a higher cost software would work, but I just did my deck design on graph paper. Built headers and then framed on top and cantilevered over to the pool. This way, there were less footers needed overall.
    How big of a deck are you planning on?
    A few pic to show the framing on my pool deck.




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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I do not want to do a big deck. 16'x12' that is all my wife need to put her chairs down and tan . I have to dig 42" below grade and the holes have to be 10" in diameter. That is a nice deck you have there. Right now I'm drawing everything in Inventor 3D. This is so far what I got:
    Pool Deck.jpg
    I use 2X8 all over and 24" OC
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    Here is a shot of the deck I built for mine.



    Both sections are identical "pie" shaped pieces and just sit on top of the beams. I never got around to attaching them. The posts(6) are centered on the imaginary "spokes of the wheel" with the beams bolted to them.

    We won't get into the numerous code violations I have

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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    This is a good idea. Little bit unsafe if you have kids around

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    I forgot to add before that the deck will be attached to existing deck by our house. So we won't bring grass or sand into the pool. We can just walk straight from inside the house into the pool
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    If you can put your design down as 2D and mark how far apart your posts are, that should be good enough for the code people to get the permit. Mark the sizes of the lumber too.
    After you layout and dig the holes, the inspector will want to see them before you put the concrete in. The holes should be clean with no water in them.
    42" is pretty deep, we only had to go 12" here in NC.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I live in Frankfort IL and we have to go 42" in Will County. What size of lumber did you guys use? I design everything out of 2x8. Do you think this should be fine?
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I used 2x10 for the headers and 2x8 for the joists. Looking at your plan, I would think 2x8 would be OK, but you may need to double them up on the outer ones.
    See attached link for typical span specifications, but you should verify with your code people.


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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    Pool Deck-1.jpgThanks for the chart. I decided to go with 2X10 all around. Here is what I have so far. How would you recommend to do the framing next to the pool? Should I put more posts in there?
    Quality of the photo sucks but maybe you will be able to see something
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I'm not following that drawing. Are you doing headers with joists on top?
    If not, you would need to add more posts alongside the pool I would think.
    Also, doesn't look like you need 4 posts on the long end. With 2x10's , x 2, your support joists or header can span over 7'.
    You probably will also need lateral support, which is just Cris-crosses on the posts on 2 sides with 4x4 or 2x6.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    I exchange couple emails with my building department and this is what I have come with:
    Deck Plan.jpg

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    Also did anyone of you install main drain/center drain in your pool? Is it hard to do?
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    That makes more sense and looks good. You can use 2x8 for the joists, even 2x6 if you wanted too.
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    Did anyone of you bonded your AGP ? If Yes. Where I can find some good info on it?
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    Re: Deck for 30 ft diameter pool

    Quote Originally Posted by Pysiek View Post
    Did anyone of you bonded your AGP ? If Yes. Where I can find some good info on it?

    I have done several over the years, What do you need to know?

    Generally, perimeter loop bonded in 4 places to the shell with connections to the pump, heater and the water bond device.

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