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    Have to replace the pump and filter

    looking at this http://www.amerimerc.com/-optiflo-pump~347992.htm but now have to replace the filter too. want to stay with sand. thinking this http://www.amerimerc.com/-pro-series...ount~S210T.htm or this http://www.amerimerc.com/-sand-dolla...ool~145322.htm.
    any preferences. am i on the wrong track. we have to pull the lever now because pool season starts next month and my pump and filter are both done.
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    Re: 1 HP 2speed pump

    For a pool your size, ideally you would want a sand filter that is at least 28" diameter ... smaller would work, but require more frequent cleaning. Also since your season is short, a little smaller should be fine. I think for your season, I would be looking for at least a 24" filter.
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    Re: 1 HP 2speed pump

    Thanks for your answer. Actually my season is April- October with solar panels. we are in Texas. it is HOT here. I know to get the biggest sand filter I can manage. my question is about quality and durability. we actually run the pool year round and my equipment has to endure wild weather shifts and freezes- I do enclose the pool equipment with plastic in winter and run everything with a freeze timer.
    also does it matter using an "in-ground" filter that will sit next to an above ground pump?
    also i am leaning towards the hayward filter but the pump is a pentair pump. should i instead use all one brand to make sure everything matches up? we will hard plumb everything into our system. if I should match up brands this pump would be my choice http://www.amerimerc.com/-power+flo-matrix~SP15932S.htm
    28 ft round Doughboy Sand Dollar II AGP, Aug 2008: 4 ft shallow, 6ft deep end: 24K gal approx Hayward Power-Flo Matrix
    1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump, Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter with a little DE -(2) 4ftx20ft Solar Bear AGP Panels w/ Goldline auto-controller, 50ppm Borates And some day, maybe this year, a DECK!!!

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    Re: 1 HP 2speed pump

    Well, your profile location states "Rural North East" ... so my assumption was that you actually had a winter with the pool shut down / drained, like in Maine or something ... no way to know that meant "in TEXAS" ... I guess some of you guys view it as your own country though right just kidding with you.

    There is no real such thing as a in ground vs. above ground filter ... only the pumps are different. And you can mix and match brands, they all mate to standard plumbing. I have a Pentair pump with Hayward filter.
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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    thanks again. that helps a lot. btw-the location line wraps so the texas is on the next line. i fixed it using abbreviation. so trying to figure out why there price increases so dramatically between 20 in jumping to 22 inch? http://www.amerimerc.com/inground-sa...top-mount.htm#
    20 inch is $293
    22 inch is $435
    our plumbing is all 1.5 inch so we will be staying with that valve size.
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    1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump, Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter with a little DE -(2) 4ftx20ft Solar Bear AGP Panels w/ Goldline auto-controller, 50ppm Borates And some day, maybe this year, a DECK!!!

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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    Not sure why the jump, but both are smaller than I would want.

    Weird my browser did not show the Texas part
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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    I have been doing some googling and have discovered rave reviews on the hayward powerflow matrix 1 1/2 hp 2 spd but have found only one review so far on the pentair optiflow 1 1/2 hp 2 spd and it was from a disgruntled Amazon customer. I need more feed back before I decide. Anyone have any thoughts?
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    1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump, Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter with a little DE -(2) 4ftx20ft Solar Bear AGP Panels w/ Goldline auto-controller, 50ppm Borates And some day, maybe this year, a DECK!!!

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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    So why not get the Hayward? Are you sure you need the 1.5 HP and not just a 1 HP?
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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    that is what i am going to do. as far as hp goes, my current Doughboy pump is labeled as 1.5 hp and barely powers my solar field. i have to run it wide open and cannot run my suction cleaner at the same time. on my 19 inch doughboy filter, my best flow rate is 30gpm and my pressure gage on a clean pool reads around 13-14psi without the solar field. i suspect the pump is highly overrated but that is what it has been since day 1 almost 6 years ago. i do not know enough about pressure tables to be dead sure about this but in looking at the hayward 24 inch sand filter, it specs at 62 gpm. Turnover Capacity 8 hour (In Gallons) 29,760 gallons
    Turnover Capacity 10 hour (In Gallons) 37,200 gallons
    pressure charts from hayward do not show the low speed, just the high speed. the 1 hp pump is sp1592 the 1.5 hp is sp1593. i tried to snag a 40kb picture but TFP is telling me it exceeds my allowance by 7.82 M???? so here is the link http://www.hayward-pool.com/prd/Abov...1_14017__A.htm
    note: noise is not a concern. we live in the middle of a 400acre pasture and the pump is 75 feet from the house on the far side of the pool.
    28 ft round Doughboy Sand Dollar II AGP, Aug 2008: 4 ft shallow, 6ft deep end: 24K gal approx Hayward Power-Flo Matrix
    1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump, Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter with a little DE -(2) 4ftx20ft Solar Bear AGP Panels w/ Goldline auto-controller, 50ppm Borates And some day, maybe this year, a DECK!!!

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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    The filter specs are just the maximum flow rate you can put through them, it has nothing to do with your actual flow rate which mostly based on your pump and plumbing efficiency.

    I can not look at the pump details you linked to right now.
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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    For anyone wondering how this came out: I got Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump,
    Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter
    I ordered both from Amazon for a considerable price reduction and prime shipping, but the Sand filter arrived without the valve! Picture on the box, valve listed on the packing slip, but no valve and no connecting sleeve for valve to filter body. Amazon did make it right, but it took considerable research to figure out what parts were needed (turns out I had to order the valve and connecting sleeve separately, as the sleeve should have been part of the pump package. In short, someone in the warehouse robbed the box). Anyways, all is installed and running great. Went through a fairly mild (for Texas) summer without shading (not good but we just did not get to it), and time to start thinking about winter protection. Does not over power my solar field (actually is more efficient). Still adjusting to learning how to use the two speeds, but we are all good. Thanks for all the help.
    28 ft round Doughboy Sand Dollar II AGP, Aug 2008: 4 ft shallow, 6ft deep end: 24K gal approx Hayward Power-Flo Matrix
    1&1/2-HP 2-SPD Pump, Hayward 27-Inch Sand Filter with a little DE -(2) 4ftx20ft Solar Bear AGP Panels w/ Goldline auto-controller, 50ppm Borates And some day, maybe this year, a DECK!!!

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    Re: Have to replace the pump and filter

    Thanks for the update. Amazon is not as good as they used to be but glad it worked out.
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