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    Shreveport, LA

    Pool Guru Ideas

    I just joined the site today, but I've been reading almost non-stop for the last three weeks. At first, the information in the Pool School seemed overwhelming, but it's all starting to come together as I continue reading. Many thanks to everyone that contributed to getting all that information together!

    I'm not a pool owner (yet). I'm in the final phases of architectural design for a custom home, and before I have the final blueprints done, I want to get the pool design mapped out to make sure I don't have to retrofit anything into my just-built home. Met with a couple PBs recently, and felt totally unprepared to answer the "what do you want" questions. Hence, my obsession with this site over the last few weeks. Here's what I know I want so far, and I'm hoping that some of you can help me fill in the gaps:

    --Energy Efficiency
    --As easy to maintain as possible -- I'm OK with spending more $ to have more convenience
    --Safety is a priority -- definitely going with an automatic pool cover as I have 2 very young children
    --Rectangular IG, probably 25,000 gallons, gunite with a PebbleTec or similar finish
    --SWG, though not dead-set on this
    --Spillover spa incorporated into the main body of the rectangle, so the cover will close over it
    --I'd like the spa jets to be numerous and powerful, so I'm thinking I'll need a second pump + a blower?
    --Tanning deck with a few bubblers for the kids to play with
    --Maybe a couple deck jets, but no other water features
    --Probably 5ft max depth
    --Heater, mainly for the spa, but I live in a southern climate, so I'll probably keep it open year-round and may heat it up occasionally in the winter months
    --Chiller, as we see extended periods of 100+ degree heat in the summertime
    --After what I've read here, I was happy that my preferred PB steered me away from an in-floor cleaning system towards a pressure side cleaner, as well as telling me that an Ozone unit would be a waste of money
    --He did, however, suggest a Nature2 Fusion, which after what I've read here, I'll nix

    Some questions:
    1. This may be a little confusing. Is there a way to plumb the spa and pool separately, but still maintain the ability to run it in spillover mode? I'm thinking that in the summertime when I'm not heating it often, I'd like to have it all run off the pool circulation in spillover mode so I can manage one body of water. In the winter when I'm not using the pool as often, I'd like to be able to keep the spa temp up without losing the heat to the pool, yet continue to filter the pool normally. Alternatively, can you automate a system to "switch" back and forth to filter the pool and spa independently during different hours? As in, the pool runs 6 hours in the morning, and then the entire system changes over to a closed spa circuit for its cycle?

    2. The automatic cover will probably be on the pool almost any time that the pool isn't being used, for safety reasons. Is this going to make it tough to maintain water balance and get rid of CC? Are there any SWG automated systems that can run in two modes that coordinate automatically with the cover, an open mode with higher chlorine output and closed with lower output? I don't foresee having high bather loads in back-to-back days often.

    3. The PB told me that they like to install a backup chlorinator on pools in this area because during the hot, sunny summer months, the SWG has trouble keeping up with demand. If I doubled the size of the SWG, as many suggest here, and use the cover most of the time when the pool is not in use, will "not keeping up" be an issue? Seems like I could augment with bleach if needed, as this would be most cost-effective, but if there's an easier option that wouldn't require the manual dosing, I'd love to hear about it. I'm planning on doing the full method outlined in the guide, including adding the borates to get the pH stability.

    4. Anything that I'm missing that's a must-have?

    Thank you in advance for your thoughts!

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    East Texas

    Re: Pool Guru Ideas

    Welcome to the forum. There are so many experts here on each and every question you have regarding your build-I'd expect plenty of comments. I'll take couple.
    Energy efficiency equates to a 2 speed pump.

    Ease of maintenance equals a SWG with capacity double the size of the pool volume. With the SWG and especially a cover, I see no need to install a "puck dispenser".

    That chiller is gonna be an expensive doodad. Consider just aerating the water to cool it down at night and then lower your PH back down with some muriatic acid.
    Consider a light finish/liner to keep from absorbing too much HEAT!

    Good decision on Nature 2. Been doing your homework I see!
    16x32x52" Steel Cornelius Miramar AGP Vinyl liner 13,100 gal. Buried 2 ft.
    2 Speed Hayward Power-Flo Matrix 85 g.p.m. 22" 250lb. sand filter hard plumbed
    Pool Rover Jr., Pool Blaster Max, Diver Dave TF100 Test Kit/Speed Stir
    Margaritaville Frozen Concoction Maker, Liqour Chiller, & Drink Mixer & Party Tub----Collect 'um all!

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    Re: Pool Guru Ideas

    With your pool/spa combo a variable speed pump might be the better option for a pump as it will allow you to customize your flow to more of what you want. Automation can do almost anything anymore talk to your builder, be specific what you want to do with it. Not sure ask the builder what automation can do. Call the manufacturer of whatever system he is recommending to you and ask them what it can do, not all builders are familiar with the latest and greatest products. A chiller would be a good investment since your pH will rise with salt chlorination aeration just adds to that.
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